Erik Ableson@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Now that’s something you don’t see everyday - a 1970s era Citroen DS that has been converted to a battery electric car.
Erik Ableson@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Kevin Karhan :verified:@kkarhan@infosec.space
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social I'm not shure this would void the value of a #historic license plate in #Germany...
Vick Forcella ™
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@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social Want!
Tattie@Tattie@eldritch.cafe
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social I got sucked into a YouTube rabbit hole on EV conversions due to this post, and I'm not even mad.
This feels like the future; the real, sustainable future. Motors that can be powered by renewable energy rather than fossil fuels, but car bodies that can still be reassembled by some dude in his garage with a standard set of tools, and control systems that you can hack with yourself using your laptop.
I get some real sense of hope that we can extract ourselves from the horrors of automotive capitalism without losing independence. Return to a world where vehicles still exist, but are no longer consumer goods, but instead tools designed to last a lifetime, as long as you can find ways to repair and refit.
Ivor Hewitt@ivor@social.ivor.org
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social oooohhhhhhh https://www.electrogenic.co.uk/bespoke/car-conversions/electric-citroen-ds/
Alexa Devreux-Swift@alexadeswift@lgbtqia.space
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
It was futuristic looking then and even more futuristic looking now!
xirah@frauxirah@chaos.social
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social 👀
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch Guten Morgen 😃
QCATOPR :donor:@timjclevenger@infosec.exchange
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social If there's one good thing Tesla has done, it's made poor quality cars with modular drivetrain components that mean a lot of reasonably-priced building blocks for conversions showing up in junkyards and scrapper auctions.
stevenray@stevenray@sfba.social
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social would absolutely drive this.
I love the idea of converting old cars, but it seems like an expensive proposition.
Thomas Beagle@thomasbeagle@mastodon.nz
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social The drivetrain finally caught up with the amazing design.
Imagine being able to buy one of these new.
Silvia Marton (🥂
Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@frauxirah@chaos.social
Ich wars nicht!
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Charlie Stross@cstross@wandering.shop
@stevenray@sfba.social @erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social There's a small but thriving specialist industry doing exactly that. Want an electric E-type Jaguar or an electric VW Camper, with bodywork and interior refurbished to as-new condition? There are vendors who will sell you those.
Saupreiss #Präparat500 🗽
@Saupreiss@pfalz.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
Neidisch? 😉
@frauxirah@chaos.social @erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@Saupreiss@pfalz.social
Ach wo. Wir haben ja unsere DS Break. Die ist zudem noch ein prima Transportfahrzeug.
Aber die Farbe find ich schick.
@frauxirah@chaos.social @erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Innocuous In Innisfil 🇨🇦
@paulbusch@mstdn.ca
@cstross@wandering.shop @stevenray@sfba.social @erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
My first car was a 1973 Toyota Celica, purchased used in 1978. My dream the past few years is to find one, restore it, and convert it to an electric vehicle. IMO, responsible car restoration should look at battery conversion and move us away from fossil fuel consumption.
xirah@frauxirah@chaos.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @Saupreiss@pfalz.social @erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social Die Farbe ist 😍
Erik Ableson@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
@frauxirah@chaos.social @SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @Saupreiss@pfalz.social I don't think that's an original stock color, but it looks awesome on the DS
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@Saupreiss@pfalz.social
Ach wo. Wir haben ja unsere DS Break. Die ist zudem noch ein prima Transportfahrzeug.
Aber die Farbe find ich schick.
@frauxirah@chaos.social @erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Do you know who has done the conversion on this DS?
@frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social
Erik Ableson@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social Apparently a startup attached to the University of Delft. I'll ask my wife if she got the name of the company from the owner
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Do you know who has done the conversion on this DS?
@frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social
Erik Ableson@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social Apparently a startup attached to the University of Delft. I'll ask my wife if she got the name of the company from the owner
Erik Ableson@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social Apparently a startup attached to the University of Delft. I'll ask my wife if she got the name of the company from the owner
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Ah, Delft (or better: the Netherlands). That was a good hint. I guess it's the car in this Video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3tiaJ-ZBbI
So it's EV Europe.
@frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social
Erik Ableson@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social Apparently a startup attached to the University of Delft. I'll ask my wife if she got the name of the company from the owner
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Ah, Delft (or better: the Netherlands). That was a good hint. I guess it's the car in this Video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3tiaJ-ZBbI
So it's EV Europe.
@frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Ah, Delft (or better: the Netherlands). That was a good hint. I guess it's the car in this Video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3tiaJ-ZBbI
So it's EV Europe.
@frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social
Erik Ableson@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social Thanks for the tip: I just found their page with all of the kits they offer and now I'm off to look at the used car advertisements...
https://eveurope.eu/ev-ombouw-sets/
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Ah, Delft (or better: the Netherlands). That was a good hint. I guess it's the car in this Video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3tiaJ-ZBbI
So it's EV Europe.
@frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social
Erik Ableson@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social Thanks for the tip: I just found their page with all of the kits they offer and now I'm off to look at the used car advertisements...
https://eveurope.eu/ev-ombouw-sets/
Erik Ableson@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social Thanks for the tip: I just found their page with all of the kits they offer and now I'm off to look at the used car advertisements...
https://eveurope.eu/ev-ombouw-sets/
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Do you live in the Netherlands? If not, I would strongly recommend to check if you can homologise such a car in your country. (France, I guess?).
We currently have a car from another dutch conversion company here in our workshop, and there is absolutely no way that this car can be homologised here in Switzerland. Customer is now probably trying to sell the car to someone in Germany, as it could be registered there...
@frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social
Erik Ableson@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social Thanks for the tip: I just found their page with all of the kits they offer and now I'm off to look at the used car advertisements...
https://eveurope.eu/ev-ombouw-sets/
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Do you live in the Netherlands? If not, I would strongly recommend to check if you can homologise such a car in your country. (France, I guess?).
We currently have a car from another dutch conversion company here in our workshop, and there is absolutely no way that this car can be homologised here in Switzerland. Customer is now probably trying to sell the car to someone in Germany, as it could be registered there...
@frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Do you live in the Netherlands? If not, I would strongly recommend to check if you can homologise such a car in your country. (France, I guess?).
We currently have a car from another dutch conversion company here in our workshop, and there is absolutely no way that this car can be homologised here in Switzerland. Customer is now probably trying to sell the car to someone in Germany, as it could be registered there...
@frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social
@madnificent@mastodon.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social My understanding is that if you can get it approved in an EU country, it should be legal in every country. Not sure I want to mess with that. Do you have a link to the car and its current weight/power? Would be interesting to see. Sadly, BE has fairly strict rules too.
Erik Ableson@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social I'm in France, so I should probably find a local shop if I ever get the budget
Holgintheair@holgintheair@det.social
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Wasn‘t there a state subsidized program to convert cars in France ?
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social
@madnificent@mastodon.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social My understanding is that if you can get it approved in an EU country, it should be legal in every country. Not sure I want to mess with that. Do you have a link to the car and its current weight/power? Would be interesting to see. Sadly, BE has fairly strict rules too.
Erik Ableson@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social I'm in France, so I should probably find a local shop if I ever get the budget
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@madnificent@mastodon.social
If it's an EC type approval, then yes. If it's just what the German TÜV calls 'Einzelbetriebsgenehmigung', that's something only valid in Germany (that's the case for the car we have here now). And similar local approvals exist in other countries too.
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@holgintheair@det.social
There have been quite some startups in France. But most of them ended up with utility vehicles. Retrofit was a nice and charming idea, but economically, it's a different story.
REV was probably the most promising, but looking at their website now, it seems like they have given up on the vintage cars as well...
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social
Holgintheair@holgintheair@det.social
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social
Wasn‘t there a state subsidized program to convert cars in France ?
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@madnificent@mastodon.social
If it's an EC type approval, then yes. If it's just what the German TÜV calls 'Einzelbetriebsgenehmigung', that's something only valid in Germany (that's the case for the car we have here now). And similar local approvals exist in other countries too.
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social
@madnificent@mastodon.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch I did not know Manufaktur Marton. Looks great. The DS was quite popular in the Netherlands and these have to be on the road. Perhaps it helps to get it listed thrrough those too? citroends.shop and 2cvgarage.nl spring to mind but there are more such as eveurope
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@holgintheair@det.social
There have been quite some startups in France. But most of them ended up with utility vehicles. Retrofit was a nice and charming idea, but economically, it's a different story.
REV was probably the most promising, but looking at their website now, it seems like they have given up on the vintage cars as well...
@erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social @frauxirah@chaos.social @Saupreiss@pfalz.social
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@madnificent@mastodon.social
We are focussing on the Swiss market, as we can't compete with the rest of the world anyway, with the current conversion rates of our currancy and the slightly higher wages here.
@madnificent@mastodon.social
@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch I did not know Manufaktur Marton. Looks great. The DS was quite popular in the Netherlands and these have to be on the road. Perhaps it helps to get it listed thrrough those too? citroends.shop and 2cvgarage.nl spring to mind but there are more such as eveurope
Silvia Marton (🥂Cüpli-Antifa)@SilviaMarton@tooting.ch
@madnificent@mastodon.social
We are focussing on the Swiss market, as we can't compete with the rest of the world anyway, with the current conversion rates of our currancy and the slightly higher wages here.