"A new psychological study has found that people who report favorable views of Donald Trump also tend to score higher on measures of callousness, manipulation, and other malevolent traitsβand lower on empathy and compassion. The findings, based on two large surveys of U.S. adults, shed light on how personality traits relate to political beliefs, including support for Trump and conservative ideology."
~ Eric W. Dolan
#Trump #authoritarianism #empathy #psychopathy
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https://www.psypost.org/trump-supporters-report-higher-levels-of-psychopathy-manipulativeness-callousness-and-narcissism/
@wdlindsy@toad.social π
you really believe this echo chamber bullshit! Hahahaha!
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This years No Shit Sherlock award for academia goes to.......
Bunch of C#*ts vote for another C#*t.
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Well, you'd have to be just a tad psychotic if not psychopathic to vote for a person who is a vile scumbag who has bragged about sexually assaulting women, was Jeffrey Epsteinβs wing man, attempted a coup, was adjudicated a rapist and was convicted of 34 felonies for cheating in the 2016 election, has run businesses into the ground, stiffed and bankrupted contractors, and scammed everyone who ever was conned into giving him a dime.
Otherwise they're good people.
"Conservative political ideology is associated with social dominance orientation (SDO), right-wing authoritarianism (RWA), psychopathic propensities (PPs), and other malevolent dispositions, and reduced empathy."
~ Craig S. Neumann and Darlene A. Ngo
#Trump #authoritarianism #empathy #psychopathy
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0092656625000704?via%3Dihub
"We examined the links between SDO, RWA, PPs and political ideology, and whether those who view Trump favorably reported higher PPs (or malevolent traits) and reduced empathy or benevolent dispositions."
#Trump #authoritarianism #empathy #psychopathy
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"The report also revealed that while both men and women showed similar patterns, the associations were stronger for men."
~ Adam Lynch
#Trump #authoritarianism #empathy #psychopathy #men #gender #MaleEntitlement #MaleDomination
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https://www.alternet.org/trump-supporters-maga-empathy/
"The report also revealed that while both men and women showed similar patterns, the associations were stronger for men."
~ Adam Lynch
#Trump #authoritarianism #empathy #psychopathy #men #gender #MaleEntitlement #MaleDomination
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https://www.alternet.org/trump-supporters-maga-empathy/
"Can we stop supporting sociopathic leaders? Isnβt it possible to recognize these qualities as dangerous warning signs of unfitness rather than expressions of strength? What does it say about our body politic that so many Americans are drawn to these types of people? Is this attraction a dangerous affliction found in every society? Should there be psychological tests as one guardrail against their continuing success?"
~ Steven Beschloss
#Trump #RFKJr #psychopathy
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https://www.americaamerica.news/p/can-we-stop-supporting-sociopathic
"Can we stop supporting sociopathic leaders? Isnβt it possible to recognize these qualities as dangerous warning signs of unfitness rather than expressions of strength? What does it say about our body politic that so many Americans are drawn to these types of people? Is this attraction a dangerous affliction found in every society? Should there be psychological tests as one guardrail against their continuing success?"
~ Steven Beschloss
#Trump #RFKJr #psychopathy
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https://www.americaamerica.news/p/can-we-stop-supporting-sociopathic
@wdlindsy@toad.social Yes, one of the many things from the Star Trek universe that would help our societies today. Every officer in Starfleet must undergo multiple and lengthy psychological assessments, evaluations, and testing. and the one's who are psycho get dropped from the service.
@wdlindsy@toad.social The body politic is under educated, misled, and easily manipulated. Itβs the conditions that allow con men to rise, cult leaders to flourish, and insane men & women to hold political power.
Frankly the conditions of political leadership are conditions that no sane person would subject themselves to allowing space sociopaths, psychopaths, and ego maniacs to assume power. Being president, a cabinet secretary, or high ranking federal politician ruins any personal privacy or normal family life, the only reward is power. Those conditions can that attract horrible people and turn good people bad.
@NJWookie@mindly.social True, except I think we can compare some conspicuous examples of people who embody the psychopathic-narcissistic model of public service and those who, however flawed, seem to be about public service. And I think the tally of narcissistic psychopaths on one side of the political divide far, far exceeds the tally on the other side, no matter how flawed it may be.
@adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social According to very recent studies in political neuropsychology, we could probably scan peopleβs brains and with modern structural/functional scans be able to get about 20-30% correlation to these traits.
But do we really want to?
Because once we start filtering for some treat, that filter can be flipped over quite easily. Especially by strongmen in power. π€
@wdlindsy@toad.social
Having worked inside Federal government my experience is that, behind closed doors, there are more psychopathic narcissists on either side than you think. They are very good at hiding it and we forgive the ones that are aligned with our preferred causes and directions. Even those that go into service for the right reasons and mentally healthy are often corrupted by the power they are given.
@NJWookie@mindly.social I look at both sides, two parties, the two poles right now, and it's very, very clear to me that they are not equivalent, that they are not equally maleficent and destructive, that one is moving as fast as possible to usher in a fascist regime and other is not. I don't have time for the both-sides game because it distorts reality, and I think we all need to do all we can to stay rooted in reality right now.
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social if we get rid of the psychopaths, there will be no strongmen in power to be afraid of
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I agree. Iβm not making to both sides are the same argument. I only am saying that power can change well meaning individuals and we need to remain vigilant to see those changes toward bad intentions within those we support. Active politicians and candidates that show a willingness and drive to limit their own power and/or to take powerful influence out of the system are the ones I support most. I honestly donβt want the politicians that crave the job for themselves but are truly doing it to serve their constituents.
@InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @gimulnautti@mastodon.green @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social this assumes that those traits can't change.
https://www.ted.com/talks/paul_piff_does_money_make_you_mean
Social psychology indicates that the very power structure itself informs behavior, rather than the other way around. Psychopathy can be the result of the structure rather than the cause of a behavior.
If we focus on building systems that eliminate involuntary hierarchy, then we get rid of the structure that elicits authoritarian behavior and also minimize the impact of people who might manifest such behaviors naturally.
@Hex@kolektiva.social @InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social Changing those traits might be possible, but perhaps not within reasonable timeframes.
They arenβt inheritable per se, but for some characteristics that lead to social dominance behaviour, physical dimensions and connectivity of brain regions explains about 1/4.
This treat is actually particularly well explained among personality traits by neurophysiology, most barely correlate at all.
@Hex@kolektiva.social @InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social Changing those traits might be possible, but perhaps not within reasonable timeframes.
They arenβt inheritable per se, but for some characteristics that lead to social dominance behaviour, physical dimensions and connectivity of brain regions explains about 1/4.
This treat is actually particularly well explained among personality traits by neurophysiology, most barely correlate at all.
@Hex@kolektiva.social @InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social Among studies that Iβm familiar with, perhaps most famous one being the Dunedain Study, it was suggested that social dominance behaviours appeared to have a certain level of inherent tendency that combined with a developmental trigger mechanism.
The funny anecdote being, one of the professors themselves discovering they were a psychopath while in the process of conducting the analysis of the study. π
@Hex@kolektiva.social @InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social Among studies that Iβm familiar with, perhaps most famous one being the Dunedain Study, it was suggested that social dominance behaviours appeared to have a certain level of inherent tendency that combined with a developmental trigger mechanism.
The funny anecdote being, one of the professors themselves discovering they were a psychopath while in the process of conducting the analysis of the study. π
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green @InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social the previous post suggested brain scans to identify and omit people whose brain structure indicates a predilection towards psychopathy. Soy concern is less one of "can we fix people who' brain structures correlate with social dominance behavior" and more "can systems elicit social dominance behavior in otherwise neurotypical people."
If the system is toxic, then neurotypicals will act in accordance with the system... Meaning that brain scans would be turned into a weapon to reinforce the system. Most Nazis were neurotypical.
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green @InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social the previous post suggested brain scans to identify and omit people whose brain structure indicates a predilection towards psychopathy. Soy concern is less one of "can we fix people who' brain structures correlate with social dominance behavior" and more "can systems elicit social dominance behavior in otherwise neurotypical people."
If the system is toxic, then neurotypicals will act in accordance with the system... Meaning that brain scans would be turned into a weapon to reinforce the system. Most Nazis were neurotypical.
@Hex@kolektiva.social @InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social Yes. That was my point in the very first instance I brought it up.
However, the knowledge of a systematic neurophysiological component cannot either be ignored.
The challenge is ultimately more in the value system. We must be able to treat psychopathy as valuable first, to be able to shape and mold it into beneficial behaviours.
Thatβs how we mold future society into not bringing out the toxic effects.
@Hex@kolektiva.social @InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social Yes. That was my point in the very first instance I brought it up.
However, the knowledge of a systematic neurophysiological component cannot either be ignored.
The challenge is ultimately more in the value system. We must be able to treat psychopathy as valuable first, to be able to shape and mold it into beneficial behaviours.
Thatβs how we mold future society into not bringing out the toxic effects.
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green @Hex@kolektiva.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social psychopathy is the opposite of valuable. Its social cancer. Psychopaths are intra-species predators.
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green @Hex@kolektiva.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social psychopathy is the opposite of valuable. Its social cancer. Psychopaths are intra-species predators.
@InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @Hex@kolektiva.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social This is false.
Psychopathy is a component of many valuable traits.
Many successfull surgeons are psychopathic. It's common in emergency workers. Firefighters as well.
Incapacity for empathy can at times help in surviving great hardship, because it provides immunity from sadness and shock as a side-effect.
It has been preserved by evolution. I would not fight against evolution. It's stupid to fight against evolution.
Don't fall for simple us vs them games.
@InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @Hex@kolektiva.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social This is false.
Psychopathy is a component of many valuable traits.
Many successfull surgeons are psychopathic. It's common in emergency workers. Firefighters as well.
Incapacity for empathy can at times help in surviving great hardship, because it provides immunity from sadness and shock as a side-effect.
It has been preserved by evolution. I would not fight against evolution. It's stupid to fight against evolution.
Don't fall for simple us vs them games.
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green @Hex@kolektiva.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social I'm not "falling" for anything. Just because it happens to be convenient in very specific instances that we could find other solutions for doesn't make it valuable. Every other consequence of psychopathy is awful. Stop defending the "value" of a condition that is responsible for most of the worlds needless suffering. Also the fact that surgeons are psychopaths is a PROBLEM. It leads to so much malpractice.
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green @Hex@kolektiva.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social I'm not "falling" for anything. Just because it happens to be convenient in very specific instances that we could find other solutions for doesn't make it valuable. Every other consequence of psychopathy is awful. Stop defending the "value" of a condition that is responsible for most of the worlds needless suffering. Also the fact that surgeons are psychopaths is a PROBLEM. It leads to so much malpractice.
William Lindsey :toad:
