@InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @gimulnautti@mastodon.green @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social this assumes that those traits can't change.
https://www.ted.com/talks/paul_piff_does_money_make_you_mean
Social psychology indicates that the very power structure itself informs behavior, rather than the other way around. Psychopathy can be the result of the structure rather than the cause of a behavior.
If we focus on building systems that eliminate involuntary hierarchy, then we get rid of the structure that elicits authoritarian behavior and also minimize the impact of people who might manifest such behaviors naturally.
@Hex@kolektiva.social @InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social Changing those traits might be possible, but perhaps not within reasonable timeframes.
They aren’t inheritable per se, but for some characteristics that lead to social dominance behaviour, physical dimensions and connectivity of brain regions explains about 1/4.
This treat is actually particularly well explained among personality traits by neurophysiology, most barely correlate at all.
@Hex@kolektiva.social @InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social Among studies that I’m familiar with, perhaps most famous one being the Dunedain Study, it was suggested that social dominance behaviours appeared to have a certain level of inherent tendency that combined with a developmental trigger mechanism.
The funny anecdote being, one of the professors themselves discovering they were a psychopath while in the process of conducting the analysis of the study. 🙂
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green @InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social the previous post suggested brain scans to identify and omit people whose brain structure indicates a predilection towards psychopathy. Soy concern is less one of "can we fix people who' brain structures correlate with social dominance behavior" and more "can systems elicit social dominance behavior in otherwise neurotypical people."
If the system is toxic, then neurotypicals will act in accordance with the system... Meaning that brain scans would be turned into a weapon to reinforce the system. Most Nazis were neurotypical.
@Hex@kolektiva.social @InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social Yes. That was my point in the very first instance I brought it up.
However, the knowledge of a systematic neurophysiological component cannot either be ignored.
The challenge is ultimately more in the value system. We must be able to treat psychopathy as valuable first, to be able to shape and mold it into beneficial behaviours.
That’s how we mold future society into not bringing out the toxic effects.
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green @Hex@kolektiva.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social psychopathy is the opposite of valuable. Its social cancer. Psychopaths are intra-species predators.
@InfoDumpTruck@mastodon.social @Hex@kolektiva.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social This is false.
Psychopathy is a component of many valuable traits.
Many successfull surgeons are psychopathic. It's common in emergency workers. Firefighters as well.
Incapacity for empathy can at times help in surviving great hardship, because it provides immunity from sadness and shock as a side-effect.
It has been preserved by evolution. I would not fight against evolution. It's stupid to fight against evolution.
Don't fall for simple us vs them games.
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green @Hex@kolektiva.social @adam@fedi.adamm.cc @wdlindsy@toad.social I'm not "falling" for anything. Just because it happens to be convenient in very specific instances that we could find other solutions for doesn't make it valuable. Every other consequence of psychopathy is awful. Stop defending the "value" of a condition that is responsible for most of the worlds needless suffering. Also the fact that surgeons are psychopaths is a PROBLEM. It leads to so much malpractice.
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