@Strandjunker@mstdn.social
The window closed when 11 million people who voted for Joe Biden in 2020 couldn’t be bothered to vote in 2024. Now everyone is up in arms because nobody bothered to read the writing on the wall that’s been there since 2016.
@HamonWry@mastodon.world @Strandjunker@mstdn.social
@benroyce@mastodon.social is probably the best person to comment on this, but I'm not sure it's just that people "couldn't be bothered”. There was an epidemic of #ToxicIdealism spread perhaps primarily by the “G-n-c-d- Joe” brigade leading a non-trivial number to not vote as some sort of masochistic protest.
The left wing must, finally, learn the lesson:
Fight in the primaries, unite in the election
@mmalc@mastodon.social @HamonWry@mastodon.world @Strandjunker@mstdn.social
It's rather weird still encountering people, as I have recently, who think "teaching Democrats a lesson" is more important than {gestures broadly}
It's also extremely entitled
That the bad effects of the Trump administration won't affect them
(Or, rather than entitlement, extremely fucking stupid to think it won't effect them.)
@benroyce@mastodon.social
Indeed
Also, if they mean the "Democratic Party" by "the democrats", then I think the "lesson" was very different to what these people assume. They think what they "taught" the party was that the party should go more to the left.
The lesson they actually taught the party was that the people on the left are untrustworthy and it is better to appeal to centrists who are greater in number and turn out more.
@mmalc@mastodon.social @HamonWry@mastodon.world @Strandjunker@mstdn.social
@benroyce@mastodon.social @mmalc@mastodon.social @HamonWry@mastodon.world @Strandjunker@mstdn.social I think it's much deeper than just idealism, having 2 choices and having to choose something you disagree with because the other option is... well, unacceptable is a rotten system.
We've seen how a two party system keeps shifting right. Eventually your options will be just far right or farther right.
@benroyce@mastodon.social @mmalc@mastodon.social @HamonWry@mastodon.world @Strandjunker@mstdn.social
SCOTUS has given us a monarch.
The House, after years of relinquishing rights to the Executive, especially the declaration of war - the parties are playing their partisan games and not doing the business of the nation.
The Senate is a collection of idiots, each serving his own interests, in the pay of the billionaires.
How much does it cost to get elected? And stay elected?
Trump the carnival barker, the stupidest man to ever swear the Oath.
@benroyce@mastodon.social @mmalc@mastodon.social @HamonWry@mastodon.world @Strandjunker@mstdn.social Remember when dammit-janet (Susan Sarandon) said she hoped Trump would win because it would hasten the revolution?
@Sh41@androiddev.social @mmalc@mastodon.social @HamonWry@mastodon.world @Strandjunker@mstdn.social
yes but you have cause and effect backwards
it's not "this shifts right, so i won't participate"
it's "i'm not participating" and then as a consequence, things shift right
it's a feedback loop that accelerates
the only solution is more participation
you're never going to get perfect, it will always suck in some ways
but if you hold your nose and participate you can iterate on that and proceed left
in fact, that's the only way it will ever happen
@phaedral@mastodon.social @mmalc@mastodon.social @HamonWry@mastodon.world @Strandjunker@mstdn.social
That's an actual thing on the far left and far right:
Accelerationism
Of course revolutions in the real world mean 100,000x injustice and suffering
And then what wins might be worse
Or if good wins, it begins to decay again because... some people still don't vote due to the same whiny toxic idealism- that's the real problem all along
But it's hard to get that across to edgelords vibing to the dimwit cosplay revolutionary fantasy life in their head
@phaedral@mastodon.social @mmalc@mastodon.social @HamonWry@mastodon.world @Strandjunker@mstdn.social
That's an actual thing on the far left and far right:
Accelerationism
Of course revolutions in the real world mean 100,000x injustice and suffering
And then what wins might be worse
Or if good wins, it begins to decay again because... some people still don't vote due to the same whiny toxic idealism- that's the real problem all along
But it's hard to get that across to edgelords vibing to the dimwit cosplay revolutionary fantasy life in their head
Ham on Wry
mmalc
