Brutkey

mcc
@mcc@mastodon.social

Several people sent me this: Github is no longer an independent company; rather as of today Github is under the AI team. As far as I'm concerned, this is an open admission the function of Github is not to host source code, but rather as an intake for Microsoft to harvest source code to train their AI.

https://www.theverge.com/news/757461/microsoft-github-thomas-dohmke-resignation-coreai-team-transition

I guess it always seemed unlikely MS would've paid all that money to altruistically host the open source community. "Oh, I didn't get rich by writing a lot of checks…"


SonstHarmlos
@SonstHarmlos@sueden.social

@mcc@mastodon.social It’s not about the source code alone (they can crawl it elsewhere), but about building a toolchain that many OS projects will become dependent on (with GitHub actions, Copilot and many more β€œAI” tools in the future)

Vick Forcella β„’β„’πŸŒˆπŸŒˆπŸŒ³πŸŒ³β„β„οΈβ˜‘β˜‘οΈ:verifi
@VickForcella@mastodon.derg.nz

@mcc@mastodon.social Make fake source code. Get people to download it.

Jonathan Reiter (张飞)
@bees@infosec.exchange

@mcc@mastodon.social love how like yesterday he was like "copilot is the future" and then today yeets himself out.

https://www.theverge.com/decoder-podcast-with-nilay-patel/720075/github-ceo-thomas-dohmke-ai-coding-copilot-openai-interview

mcc
@mcc@mastodon.social

I guess the curse of Sourceforge comes for us all, eventually

Ted Mielczarek
@tedmielczarek@mastodon.social

@mcc@mastodon.social I wish we would have figured out a workable self-hosting solutionβ€”or even better an actually-distributed VCSβ€”instead of everyone just switching to The Next Popular Platform so we could have it happen all over again.

mcc
@mcc@mastodon.social

@tedmielczarek@mastodon.social As far as I am concerned self-hosting and code backup are mutually exclusive goals

mcc
@mcc@mastodon.social

@tedmielczarek@mastodon.social As far as I am concerned self-hosting and code backup are mutually exclusive goals

Ted Mielczarek
@tedmielczarek@mastodon.social

@mcc@mastodon.social yeah that's fair. I guess "actually distributed" would be nice, although you'd need some way of actually ensuring replication. Maybe the right goal here would be "all of the project details exist in the repository alongside the code"? It's easy enough to publish a git repository to some other host, but the issues/pull requests/etc are much harder.

Ted Mielczarek
@tedmielczarek@mastodon.social

@mcc@mastodon.social yeah that's fair. I guess "actually distributed" would be nice, although you'd need some way of actually ensuring replication. Maybe the right goal here would be "all of the project details exist in the repository alongside the code"? It's easy enough to publish a git repository to some other host, but the issues/pull requests/etc are much harder.

mcc
@mcc@mastodon.social

@tedmielczarek@mastodon.social In general the story of the last 20 years in net tech is

- P2P tech arises, shows several powerful proofs of concept, is ready to be applied to virtually everything

- CDNs ("cloud providers") arise, are very cheap, so cheap there's no reason to investigate P2P

- Enough time passes for everyone to forget how to function without cloud providers

- Cloud providers enshittify intensely and rapidly, enter into a state you would have never chosen, but now P2P knowhow is mostly lost

mcc
@mcc@mastodon.social

@tedmielczarek@mastodon.social In general the story of the last 20 years in net tech is

- P2P tech arises, shows several powerful proofs of concept, is ready to be applied to virtually everything

- CDNs ("cloud providers") arise, are very cheap, so cheap there's no reason to investigate P2P

- Enough time passes for everyone to forget how to function without cloud providers

- Cloud providers enshittify intensely and rapidly, enter into a state you would have never chosen, but now P2P knowhow is mostly lost