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Morgan ⚧️
@raphaelmorgan@disabled.social

USpol

@Legit_Spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.al @JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange you're right, we could have all voted for Harris and waited 4 more years for this to happen (because the "lesser evil" just keeps getting more and more evil, and eventually they would just be the same, or the "more evil" would make Trump-likes into a "lesser evil")
But we're here now, so what are we gonna actually do about it besides complaining about leftists?

Jess👾
@JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange

Three things I'll give the extreme right wing:

They have dominated the statewide elections for 30 years now when the Dems have abandoned all the "flyover" states.

They developed an incredible political machine to allow them to point a gun at the head of every single one of their elected officials and say: "vote even farther right wing or be primaried", and they actually have the numbers to show up in primaries and do it.

They have very clear and straightforward populist messages like: Things are bad, give me power and I'll make things great again. It's those people's fault that things are bad, I'll get rid of them. People are frustrated with the status quo. They really want someone to give them hope for a better world. But the only thing Democrats have been willing to campaign on is "we'll keep things the same way they are".

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Morgan ⚧️
@raphaelmorgan@disabled.social

@JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange @Legit_Spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.al exactly. And a lot of us lefties still vote blue, not because we want to keep things the same but because Democrats are an easier ruling class to fight. But people who are super privileged under the current system get really mad when the disadvantaged try to change it so we can get a goddamn break--whether that means voting for Trump, voting third party, or voting for Democrats and then daring to still criticize them or expect anything out of them

Jess👾
@JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange

But then of course the libs save their big guns for smashing any progressives.

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Scooter :polyamoryFlag:
@scooter@labyrinth.zone

@JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange @raphaelmorgan@disabled.social @Legit_Spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.al They're definitely ready to take on Zohran Mamdani.

Funny that "Vote Blue No Matter Who" no longer applies.

Legit_Spaghetti
@Legit_Spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.al

@scooter@labyrinth.zone @raphaelmorgan@disabled.social @JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange It's infuriating. Instead of learning from Mamdani, New York Democrats seem to be hellbent on scuttling his chances. I don't think they'll succeed; Mamdani has been handling the headwinds really well. But it doesn't instill confidence when folks like Schumer or Jeffries refuse to acknowledge which way voters want the party to go.

Clearly progressive policies are popular, and that's not going to change no matter how many progressives they kneecap.

Jess👾
@JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange

I'm even willing to acknowledge that Dems have always been a big tent party, and that the people and policies who are popular in NYC might get obliterated in Iowa. So tbh id be okay with the national Dems just drawing up like just a few core planks including "civil rights for everyone" everyone needs to have, and beyond that, leave it to the incumbents to defend their own seats if they can. National party ain't gonna do shit until the General.

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