Kevin RussellGood news in hard times.
"AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified"
Here's the best part.
"Copyright class actions could financially ruin AI industry, trade groups say." 👈
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/08/ai-industry-horrified-to-face-largest-copyright-class-action-ever-certified/
#cheerful #good #nice #ai #ruin #copyright #llm #greed #robot
gary@kevinrns@mstdn.social china wins by default then - the option i see, maybe ai can be done more ethically but it is going to take years to wend its way through the justice system
lin11c@kevinrns@mstdn.social
They should have thought of this before they stole everything. If corporations are making billions off AI then they have to pay for the material they are using. It's that simple. Why should they be exempt?
alcinnz@kevinrns@mstdn.social
'According to the groups, allowing copyright class actions in AI training cases will result in a future where copyright questions remain unresolved and the risk of "emboldened" claimants forcing enormous settlements will chill investments in AI.'
Oh, no! /snarky
Steve Rehrauer@lin11c@toad.social @kevinrns@mstdn.social Because money and fuck you, that’s why.
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@alcinnz@floss.social @kevinrns@mstdn.social so, why should #copyrightholders care about #AI-companies' bottomline?
I dont mean #copyright is perfect, I think the expirationdate is too damn long. But in contrast, if it cant even protect your work against becoming AI-trainingdatefood, what cán it protect against?!
alcinnz@feike@toot.community @kevinrns@mstdn.social Exactly!
I'm no fan of copyright (especially DRM), but when the powerful aren't playing by the same rules as the rest of us... That is injustice!
alcinnz@feike@toot.community @kevinrns@mstdn.social Exactly!
I'm no fan of copyright (especially DRM), but when the powerful aren't playing by the same rules as the rest of us... That is injustice!
Feike 🇪🇺🇳🇱 🚫👑@alcinnz@floss.social @kevinrns@mstdn.social well I think #creators must be able to #profit from their work, like #Franquin could sell his #commicbooks #SpirouEtFantasio #GastonLagaffe . If there aint no #copyrightlaw anyone could copy his #creation, and he couldnt make or would have made less money from it.
But like #patentlaw, #copyright must expire sometime, and not like #disney's #MickeyMouse who's been protected from being #copied for #waltdisney's entire lifetime and 70 years afterwards (1/2)
Feike 🇪🇺🇳🇱 🚫👑@alcinnz@floss.social @kevinrns@mstdn.social well I think #creators must be able to #profit from their work, like #Franquin could sell his #commicbooks #SpirouEtFantasio #GastonLagaffe . If there aint no #copyrightlaw anyone could copy his #creation, and he couldnt make or would have made less money from it.
But like #patentlaw, #copyright must expire sometime, and not like #disney's #MickeyMouse who's been protected from being #copied for #waltdisney's entire lifetime and 70 years afterwards (1/2)
Feike 🇪🇺🇳🇱 🚫👑@alcinnz@floss.social @kevinrns@mstdn.social (2/2) #patents expire at like 10 years and are ment for #inventions, while #copyright is ment for #thoughts and #ideas and can be eazier to profit from than inventions , cause you dont need to persuade buyers of your invention's effectiveness, your thoughts just need to be appealing. So, im arguing for a #copyrightexpirationdate set at maximum 25 years
Feike 🇪🇺🇳🇱 🚫👑@alcinnz@floss.social @kevinrns@mstdn.social (2/2) #patents expire at like 10 years and are ment for #inventions, while #copyright is ment for #thoughts and #ideas and can be eazier to profit from than inventions , cause you dont need to persuade buyers of your invention's effectiveness, your thoughts just need to be appealing. So, im arguing for a #copyrightexpirationdate set at maximum 25 years
alcinnz@feike@toot.community @kevinrns@mstdn.social Yeah, I'd be happy with that!
Though I'd add that I'd like to see DRM stop being backed by laws & international treaties.
alcinnz@feike@toot.community @kevinrns@mstdn.social Yeah, I'd be happy with that!
Though I'd add that I'd like to see DRM stop being backed by laws & international treaties.
Kevin Russell@alcinnz@floss.social @feike@toot.community
DRM is NOT copyright law. It is a kludge to enforce rich corporate power, using excuses from lawyers.
DRM is "fuck you" training to get you over "the customer is always right" expectations about corporations.
#drm #ai #fuckYouTraining
Kevin Russell@alcinnz@floss.social @feike@toot.community
DRM is NOT copyright law. It is a kludge to enforce rich corporate power, using excuses from lawyers.
DRM is "fuck you" training to get you over "the customer is always right" expectations about corporations.
#drm #ai #fuckYouTraining
mathew@kevinrns@mstdn.social @alcinnz@floss.social @feike@toot.community I'd go further: DRM is an infringement of copyright law. The legal basis of copyright is that it assigns monopoly protection for a fixed term, subject to fair use. DRM doesn't allow fair use or have a fixed term, therefore it breaks the fundamental legal agreement.
mathew@kevinrns@mstdn.social @alcinnz@floss.social @feike@toot.community I'd go further: DRM is an infringement of copyright law. The legal basis of copyright is that it assigns monopoly protection for a fixed term, subject to fair use. DRM doesn't allow fair use or have a fixed term, therefore it breaks the fundamental legal agreement.
Kevin Russell@mathew@universeodon.com @alcinnz@floss.social @feike@toot.community
Thank you for the clarification and expansion of the description of its transformation of the law. Copyright was a "right" - I wonder how many people even notice the spelling.
A handshake. A reward for creation, limited to guarantee quick addition of the creation to human progress.
Now through bribes and control of legislatures by money, it is applied as a weapon, with generations of control given to "rights purchasers" not content creators.
#copyright #ai #drm
Kevin Russell@mathew@universeodon.com @alcinnz@floss.social @feike@toot.community
Thank you for the clarification and expansion of the description of its transformation of the law. Copyright was a "right" - I wonder how many people even notice the spelling.
A handshake. A reward for creation, limited to guarantee quick addition of the creation to human progress.
Now through bribes and control of legislatures by money, it is applied as a weapon, with generations of control given to "rights purchasers" not content creators.
#copyright #ai #drm
mathew@kevinrns@mstdn.social @alcinnz@floss.social @feike@toot.community Oh, yeah, that's another thing I dislike about copyright, that while the US constitution says "…securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors…", what happens now is that corporations end up owning the copyright rather than the authors and inventors — again, defeating the purpose of its existence.
mathew@kevinrns@mstdn.social @alcinnz@floss.social @feike@toot.community Oh, yeah, that's another thing I dislike about copyright, that while the US constitution says "…securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors…", what happens now is that corporations end up owning the copyright rather than the authors and inventors — again, defeating the purpose of its existence.