Brutkey

klu9
@klu9@exquisite.social

@FediTips@social.growyourown.services

Yes, I've set the "Filter" languages, not just "Interface" language.
(Preferences > Other > Public Timelines > Filter languages)

And many of the posts in undesired languages (in my case, 95% German) have been quite long, hundreds of characters.

I wonder if following a hashtag trumps/bypasses the language filter.

#Mastodon #MastodonHelp

FinchHaven sfba
@FinchHaven@sfba.social

@klu9@exquisite.social

I've been puzzled by the translation (or lack of it) issue also

Here the key may be "Public timelines"

As I understand, this will not translate anything in your Home feed

Which is where I want auto-translation the most

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@FediTips@social.growyourown.services


Fedi.Tips
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services

@FinchHaven@sfba.social @klu9@exquisite.social

Many servers have a translation service in your Home feed, and if your server has it you'll see "translate" below posts in other languages.

However, the admin has to pay the translation service provider a monthly fee to have such a service. Not all admins can afford this, so they don't activate the translation feature. (The reason translations are "free" on commercial platforms is they're paying for the translations by selling your data etc).

FinchHaven sfba
@FinchHaven@sfba.social

@FediTips@social.growyourown.services

I understand this

My instance use LibreTranslate

My issue is remote instances that throw an httpd 404 or httpd 503 at any attempt to translate a post from one of their posters, even when I go to their profile feed and try to translate directly from their home instance, or where posts in my Home feed don't even offer Translate at all

It's really an inexcusable weak point

I remember on Github (where I follow Mastodon development) where quite some time ago Gargron himself blew off the entire auto-translate issue as too marginal to bother addressing programmatically in the distribution itself

His attitude was basically "Meh... they should all be able to read European (meaning German) anyway..."

So here we are: Mastodon as a Tower of Babel

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@klu9@exquisite.social

Fedi.Tips
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services

@FinchHaven@sfba.social

Are you attempting to use translate on a different server's website?

FinchHaven sfba
@FinchHaven@sfba.social

@FediTips@social.growyourown.services

I am attemting to translate using the Translate text at the bottom of given post

Again my instance uses LibreTranslate

Sometimes I'll click through to the post on the origin instance and try there

Sometimes (when I have a lot of time to waste and I'm in a better mood) I'll open up the instances

/public/local

and see

1) if they have any posts in anything other than their native language, and

2) do they seem to offer any translation at all

And here's the core point:

how much effort should I be expected to expand, to translate a foreign / European/ German post just to read something that ends up being extremely mundane

And how much finite screen space am I expected to give to posts / posters I'll never be able to translate and read?

I've already Muted and Blocked two in the last 15 minutes...

Fedi.Tips
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services

@FinchHaven@sfba.social

Are you seeing a "translate" button below remote posts you are viewing within your own instance's website?

If you are, what happens when you click it? (Not on the origin instance but when viewed within your own instance's interface.)

FinchHaven sfba
@FinchHaven@sfba.social

@FediTips@social.growyourown.services

JFC...

I have four tabs open, Firefox web browser on Ubuntu, to my home instance

/home

/public/local

my Lists

and my Profile home

I'm on my /home tab viewing posts

I am looking for and using the Translate tag at the lower left of a given post

Do you need a screenshot to understand what I'm saying?

Or do you think I don't know what I'm talking about?

Fedi.Tips
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services

@FinchHaven@sfba.social

"Or do you think I don't know what I'm talking about?"

Absolutely not! I am the one who doesn't understand, I am trying to get a better picture of what is going on by asking for details
🙂🙂

I'm trying to help.