@FediTips@social.growyourown.services
Yes, I've set the "Filter" languages, not just "Interface" language.
(Preferences > Other > Public Timelines > Filter languages)
And many of the posts in undesired languages (in my case, 95% German) have been quite long, hundreds of characters.
I wonder if following a hashtag trumps/bypasses the language filter.
#Mastodon #MastodonHelp
@klu9@exquisite.social @FediTips@social.growyourown.services
The language filter acts on the language the post is set to rather than the language it's actually written in. People posting in multiple languages may have their default language set to English, which the filter won't catch no matter what language the post is written in.
@AdrianRiskin@kolektiva.social @klu9@exquisite.social
Yup, this is the problem, people are using the wrong settings on their posts.
There is an automatic language detector but it isn't reliable enough on short posts to have it override the user. It does suggest to them when it thinks they've got it wrong though.
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services @AdrianRiskin@kolektiva.social @klu9@exquisite.social Yeah, this is basically because the way that most of the clients are made, mine for example doesn't even let me set the language for a post, for something like tusky it's a hassle, so I usually don't bother, I'm not going through the effort just for making the americans more coddled in not having to deal with more than their language existing.
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services
Translatlation feature does not work
Yep, this is correct.
It is an annoying, IMHO honestly avoidable issue:
Automatic language detection seems to be an ubiquitous feature on many websites. It should be quite easy to perform in a #Fediverse app or on the PC as well, IMO.
Afterwards, a pop-up window could appear, e. g.: your post's language is set to English but appears to be in German instead. Would you like to change your language setting? "
In the...
@AdrianRiskin@kolektiva.social @klu9@exquisite.social
@HistoPol@mastodon.social @AdrianRiskin@kolektiva.social @klu9@exquisite.social
"Automatic language detection seems to be an ubiquitous feature on many websites. It should be quite easy to perform in a #Fediverse app or on the PC as well, IMO."
There has been automatic language detection on here for many years, it lights up the language button if it thinks you are using the wrong language.
The problem is this is a microblogging platform so the posts tend to be very short. At very short lengths the detector is unreliable.
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services @AdrianRiskin@kolektiva.social @klu9@exquisite.social
...meantime, I try doing this manually, but forget from time to time.
Alas, if I remember correctly, it isn't possible to change the language setting without deleting and reposting, leaving all boosts and replies orphaned.
Last point: from time to time I enjoy having a post from a language I don't speak automatically translated and get into contact with new people.
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@HistoPol@mastodon.social @AdrianRiskin@kolektiva.social @klu9@exquisite.social
You can set the language to a default for your most common language, and then manually change if you use other languages as well.
You can change the language setting by editing if you forget on a particular post 👍
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services
I know, thx, but that's not what I mean.
I've seen several websites that can auto-detect a language, e. g. GoogleTranslate.
Too many people in the Fediverse are quite unaware that they should a) set their standard language and b) change that setting, if they post in another.
With the improvement I suggested, that could be remedied.
@AdrianRiskin@kolektiva.social @klu9@exquisite.social
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services
I know, thx, but that's not what I mean.
I've seen several websites that can auto-detect a language, e. g. GoogleTranslate.
Too many people in the Fediverse are quite unaware that they should a) set their standard language and b) change that setting, if they post in another.
With the improvement I suggested, that could be remedied.
@AdrianRiskin@kolektiva.social @klu9@exquisite.social
@HistoPol@mastodon.social
There is already a system on Mastodon that does auto-detect your language.
If you use the website interface and type in the wrong language, the language indicator lights up and clicking it suggests which setting you should be using.
The problem with autodetection is that it's unreliable for very short messages, which are very common on microblogging platforms like Mastodon. That's why Mastodon doesn't just have autodetection overruling the user's settings.
@HistoPol@mastodon.social
There is already a system on Mastodon that does auto-detect your language.
If you use the website interface and type in the wrong language, the language indicator lights up and clicking it suggests which setting you should be using.
The problem with autodetection is that it's unreliable for very short messages, which are very common on microblogging platforms like Mastodon. That's why Mastodon doesn't just have autodetection overruling the user's settings.
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services
Oh, excellent. Good to know.
Alas, I mostly use Tusky and Fedilab (for longer threads).
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services @HistoPol@mastodon.social IMHO it should have autodetection ON by default, but it should also be smarter: very short messages should use the context of the conversation, otherwise use the language of the last post.
@starsider@valenciapa.ws @HistoPol@mastodon.social
If you reply to a post that uses another language, it does automatically use that post's language instead of your own default.
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services @HistoPol@mastodon.social Yes but that only works when the post has a language, which is frequently not the case for non-mastodon servers.
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services @HistoPol@mastodon.social Yes but that only works when the post has a language, which is frequently not the case for non-mastodon servers.
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