Nelson@nelson@shrimp.starlightnet.work
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1. I agree with this point, but also, why make anything then? why make new tools and new technology if it's not going to have the same amount of users right away? I dislike this line of thinking.
2. I really do not want people to keep trying to monetize social networking, social networking is something that should not be privatized as it is quite literally one of the pillars of modern society and the modern internet. I couldn't care less about for-profit investors looking to monetize. Plus, you're factually wrong, Jack Dorsey actually launched the project as a way to extend Twitter, and ended up abandoning it because he seemingly did "Not believe in it." Most (if not all) of Bluesky/ATProto was made from the ground up without his help at all.
2. The Zot protocol looks absolutely awesome, I want to read more about it! Is it like Scuttlebug or something?
Now that I think about it, the main issue with ActivityPub and Zot is that both of those protocols failed to be sold to the people, more than to investors. Bluesky is easy to sell as simply "A better Twitter that is open source and independent", meanwhile the Fediverse kept its complicated terminology and to this day, no regular person can really decypher what the word "Fediverse" means without having actually read the theory on how the protocol works, a fatal flaw in my opinion.
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@nelson@shrimp.starlightnet.work I'll try to answer you specifically.
Creating new things is important, but it's naive to think they can spread just because they're new or because they work well.I agree with this point, but also, why make anything then? why make new tools and new technology if it's not going to have the same amount of users right away? I dislike this line of thinking.
Technological creativity and the diffusion of a technology are like the processes of genetic diversification leading to speciation: the latter is a fortuitous event made possible by the former.
I'm not talking about monetization as a goal, but about funding to make a platform's advertising sustainable (and accelerate its diffusion).. I really do not want people to keep trying to monetize social networking
Dorsey was the giant planetary mass that made Bluesky's gravitational slingshot possible. Without Dorsey, Bluesky would have fewer users than Minds.Plus, you're factually wrong, Jack Dorsey actually
libera.site/help/developer/zot…The Zot protocol looks absolutely awesome, I want to read more about it!
The "protocol" is not a necessary component of a social network, but only of a decentralized platform. It's not the protocols or philosophies that need to convince the public, but the products: frontends and apps.Now that I think about it, the main issue with ActivityPub and Zot is that both of those protocols failed to be sold to the people, more than to investors.
It's not a flaw in the Fediverse, but it's a flaw in the so-called Fediverse evangelists...and to this day, no regular person can really decypher what the word "Fediverse" means without having actually read the theory on how the protocol works, a fatal flaw in my opinion
Very true!The moment you say "server" to a regular person, it's the exact moment they completely lose the thread.
I'm not surprised: having a lot of money allows you to produce good corporate communications.That's simply not something you see happen on bluesky at all! people just think of it... as the app you install and use.