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@nelson@shrimp.starlightnet.work A protocol's success is determined by two factors:
1. The number of users: Activitypub took 10 years to build a significant user base.
2. The ability to attract investors: AT Proto wouldn't exist if a "big tech bro" like Jack Dorsay hadn't sponsored it with the investment funds he was already in contact with. I'd like to point out, however, that Jack Dorsay wasn't as successful when he tried to sponsor the excellent Nostr protocol (which is extremely interesting, too).
This is why the excellent Zot protocol, already used by Hubzilla (and which far surpasses both Activitypub and AT Proto), has never been successful and will never be. The spread of the Zot protocol has certainly not been helped by the fact that the only working product that supports it, Hubzilla, is as intuitive as the control console of a nuclear submarine and as ergonomic as a pair of underwear woven from dragon-scale chainmail.
Now I wish Versia all the best and I also appreciate the fact that there is a bridge with Activitypub (even if I haven't figured out how it works), but in my opinion, the only way to have a chance is to create a software platform that is designed to develop an Android and iOS app that increases its reach among the public.
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1. I agree with this point, but also, why make anything then? why make new tools and new technology if it's not going to have the same amount of users right away? I dislike this line of thinking.
2. I really do not want people to keep trying to monetize social networking, social networking is something that should not be privatized as it is quite literally one of the pillars of modern society and the modern internet. I couldn't care less about for-profit investors looking to monetize. Plus, you're factually wrong, Jack Dorsey actually launched the project as a way to extend Twitter, and ended up abandoning it because he seemingly did "Not believe in it." Most (if not all) of Bluesky/ATProto was made from the ground up without his help at all.
2. The Zot protocol looks absolutely awesome, I want to read more about it! Is it like Scuttlebug or something?
Now that I think about it, the main issue with ActivityPub and Zot is that both of those protocols failed to be sold to the people, more than to investors. Bluesky is easy to sell as simply "A better Twitter that is open source and independent", meanwhile the Fediverse kept its complicated terminology and to this day, no regular person can really decypher what the word "Fediverse" means without having actually read the theory on how the protocol works, a fatal flaw in my opinion.