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Feyter
@feyter@mastodon.gamedev.place

@FediTips@social.growyourown.services Right, organic grow has been a strong factor in why fedi is so pleasant. However, for now I mostly see sub cultures with a stronger affiliation to tech stuff.

And I feel like by now the growth has come to an end. I don't say the majority must use primary Fedi, I'm happy if it stays like it is, but I think the world would be better if everyone would do.

I hope I'm wrong, but I really don't think the mainstream will ever come to Fedi, without someone pulling them here. Maybe that's ok.

Fedi.Tips
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services

@feyter@mastodon.gamedev.place

"And I feel like by now the growth has come to an end."

Non-corporate platforms don't grow like corporate ones.

Commercial platforms try to grow quickly and unsustainably to please shareholders who are thinking about the next quarter's figures.

Fediverse growth happens differently:

1. Mass wave of new people
2. Wave dies down, many leave
3. More people stick around than before the wave, network has grown

This repeats over years and provides gradual but sustainable growth.

Feyter
@feyter@mastodon.gamedev.place

@FediTips@social.growyourown.services Maybe. But what if not? What if we have reached the limits without structural changes?

The Fediverse exist, it's a nice place. It doesn't need to grow to ensure it's existence. That's not my point.

I think society has a problem rooted in the marketing platforms some call "social media" and I think Fediverse is the best solution to this problem. But transferring the reasons why so many still use this platforms to Fedi, would perhaps need more possibilities to make money.

Fedi.Tips
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services

@feyter@mastodon.gamedev.place

"Maybe. But what if not? What if we have reached the limits without structural changes?"

I've been through so many waves on here and this sentiment gets repeated every time a wave dies down, and every time it's forgotten when a new bigger wave happens.

Look at this article from 2017 on "six reasons why Mastodon won't survive":

https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

Mastodon now is far larger and more active than it was in 2017, but it's grown gradually so the media doesn't cover it as growing.

Feyter
@feyter@mastodon.gamedev.place

@FediTips@social.growyourown.services I sure hope you're right and the social problems don't start to accelerate faster than we could catch up, because I really want to be wrong about this.

Fedi.Tips
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services

@feyter@mastodon.gamedev.place

Yeah, that's a fair point. Things are getting really bad in the world 😞