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Hey Ben, and others -
For what it's worth, I voted for Harris in the last election, but this is an extremely uncharitable and unfair read of what non-voters might be up to. I wrote on the game theoretic rationality of withholding your vote here: https://philpapers.org/rec/LOOADO-5

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It might be an oversight, but if you then whine about ppl not reading it, you at least give the impression of posting in bad faith.

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Beyond that, seem to be number of issues to separate theoretical from practical:

Paper itself acknowledges that if the “idea of a [Manifest Normative Mandate] dictating whether a real world politician will act as a delegate or a trustee is naive” […] then the arguments that follow may rely on a problematic assumption”

Given readiness of candidates to go against likely wishes of their electors, I think this is a problem

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Paper itself also acknowledges:

"abstaining from voting is only a move in one of those games […] It is not a move in the game that signals a voter’s preferred policies.”

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More relevant still:

"The problem with voter abstention is that abstention may more strongly signal apathy than whatever message the
abstainer wants to send. As long as apathetic non-voters significantly outnumber ideological abstainers, the abstainers signal apathy by not voting.”

Given that 36% were non-voters in the last election, this seems to be the situation we're in.