✧✦Catherine✦✧every single AI-for-coding experiment i've conducted ended up the same way: it was clearly faster, even if only a little bit, to do the same thing without the LLM in the middle https://mastodon.social/@janl@narrativ.es/115014692424751266
yopp@whitequark@mastodon.social @janl@narrativ.es in auto-complete mode, no surpries, it is somewhat usable, especially when it’s a lot of boilerplate. But as “coding agent” it’s, uh, /suboptimal/
Wulfy—Speaker to the machines@whitequark@mastodon.social
Even in scenarios where you had no prior knowledge of language/frameworks?
yopp@n_dimension@infosec.exchange @whitequark@mastodon.social sometimes it can give you something to work from. But if you just trust it to spit out something workable you are not gaining knowlege about language/framework, so your ability to correct bullshit is not improving and it’s just generate technical debt (best case scenario)
✧✦Catherine✦✧@n_dimension@infosec.exchange i have not conducted those experiments
Wulfy—Speaker to the machines@whitequark@mastodon.social
In my experience, the utility of AI increases with the expansion beyond your comfort boundaries...
... On the other hand there is a goldilocks zone there, because if you go too far out of your comfort zone... You will not be able to distinguish fact from fiction.
Case in point:
The attached image is from a 3D Demo I threw together in about 2-3 hours. It's in 3D python based framework called Visier. Spinny 3D shit hosted on the web. I know NOTHING about Python, Visier or hosting 3D frameworks on servers.
Had I to do it the hard way, it would take me 3 weeks minimum, not 3 hours.
I think THAT is true power of #vibecoding.
Ignas Kiela@n_dimension@infosec.exchange @whitequark@mastodon.social I think ypu underestimate yourself and you could have done it in 3 hours.
What has recent research about AI usage show is that you're less scared to tackle new stuff if you have AI. You can do it if you're not scared.
Ignas Kiela@n_dimension@infosec.exchange @whitequark@mastodon.social I think ypu underestimate yourself and you could have done it in 3 hours.
What has recent research about AI usage show is that you're less scared to tackle new stuff if you have AI. You can do it if you're not scared.
Wulfy—Speaker to the machines@ignaloidas@not.acu.lt @whitequark@mastodon.social
I am not 'scared'.
I have been a developer of a sort of another for 35 years.
I know exactly what I am capable of.
It took me 6 hours to learn how to back up and restore a WP site.
As you get older, tasks get harder.
When I was 21, I could pull a 72 hour coding marathon fueled by 20 liters of Pepsi Max and a couple of short naps.
Today, I am lucky to get a script running in a day.
I actually do not like reading HTML tutorials, they are written very poorly, contain poor examples, and as anyone who used #StackOverflow will testify, half the 'solutions' are wrong.
With AI, you just ask "Given these parameters, and these outcomes, how do I do blah?"
Work harder, not smarter.
Wait... the other one.
Wulfy—Speaker to the machines@ignaloidas@not.acu.lt @whitequark@mastodon.social
I am not 'scared'.
I have been a developer of a sort of another for 35 years.
I know exactly what I am capable of.
It took me 6 hours to learn how to back up and restore a WP site.
As you get older, tasks get harder.
When I was 21, I could pull a 72 hour coding marathon fueled by 20 liters of Pepsi Max and a couple of short naps.
Today, I am lucky to get a script running in a day.
I actually do not like reading HTML tutorials, they are written very poorly, contain poor examples, and as anyone who used #StackOverflow will testify, half the 'solutions' are wrong.
With AI, you just ask "Given these parameters, and these outcomes, how do I do blah?"
Work harder, not smarter.
Wait... the other one.