Chad :mstdn:Genuine concern about how the CBC is conducting their business, as they're paying for a third party to target people who are rightfully critical of their journalism, where it matters.
We will NOT be taking down this community member's post. There is no unauthorized use of trademark here in this empty threat. Period the end.
ZeroFOX can email us with threats to kingdom come, and we've had many.
#mstdnca
T@chad@mstdn.ca As someone who works with these types of vendors, here’s what is happening:
- CBC are using ZerFOX to monitor mentions of them on social media.
- Anything flagged gets sent for a person at CBC to review.
- the person who reviewed the alert marks it for takedown
- ZeroFOX sends out the notice to the offending parties.
Note that ZeroFOX will continue sending you takedown notice for some time (their info tells me 30-days or 10 submissions).
C.@chad@mstdn.ca
The fact that the CBC wasted taxpayer money paying lawyers to send an obviously invalid trademark nastygram is a scandal of its own.
Nobody with the slightest hint of trademark knowledge would think this was actionable.
Can we take the cost of the lawyers out of the CBC executives' bonuses?
#CBC #Canada #lawyer #nastygram #trademark #waste #taxpayer
Dustin Hudyma@chad@mstdn.ca CBC has its own legal department. I'm sure this is a scam. I also think it would be worthwhile forwarding this to their legal department. As with any news source, I may disagree with some of their editorial choices but this is disingenuous and fraud.
dragonfrog@chad@mstdn.ca I wouldn't reply to zero fox, but I'd inquire with the CBC whether they're aware someone claiming to represent them is committing obvious fraud.
Out of Control :laravel: 🇨🇦
@chad@mstdn.ca Can CBC confirm if they use ZeroFox?IMO hiring a USA based security firm in this day and age is not very security oriented and goes against our #elbowsUp rules.
stony kark@chad@mstdn.ca it doesn’t look like legit lawyer spam to me (poor grammar, asserts you can trademark “naming conventions” before casually saying someone is “impersonating” CBC which is a much more serious problem, doesn’t specify the actual violation(s), references TM registered in the US which wouldn’t apply here anyways). If it’s not totally fake, the lawyer is incompetent and you have nothing to worry about lol
Sam Oldman 🐀
@chad@mstdn.ca I'm thinking that the letters are being generated by a DRM seeking bot with little human oversight.
Amelia Bellamy-Royds :progress:@dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.org @chad@mstdn.ca Yeah, I would not assume that this is legitimately representing the CBC without confirmation. It could be: there has been an issue with fake CBC stories being used for pushing scams on social media, so I could see them contracting a 3rd party to try to take fraudulent posts down.
https://cbchelp.cbc.ca/hc/en-ca/articles/217731317-Is-this-CBC-story-or-ad-on-social-media-real
But that post is not pretending to be anything other than discussion of the CBC's reporting. It is certainly not a trademark issue. If the CBC is paying a company that is just searching for "CBC" & sending form emails, they should know. If the company is using their name in another type of fraud scheme, they should know.
Chad :mstdn:@samloonie@mstdn.ca it's human generated - the screenshot attached to a previous email showed they were using google chrome and the find feature to look for the term "CBC".
Dianora (Diane Bruce)@chad@mstdn.ca @samloonie@mstdn.ca I am seeing red flags here
https://hucksters.net/blog/zerofox-exposed/
Chad :mstdn:@Dianora@ottawa.place @samloonie@mstdn.ca thanks! This is great. Still not replying to them.
Chad :mstdn:@Dianora@ottawa.place @samloonie@mstdn.ca thanks! This is great. Still not replying to them.
Chad :mstdn:@Dianora@ottawa.place @samloonie@mstdn.ca screenshot censoring the impacted community members and federated members participating in the conversation in question. You can tell these folks are farming for bullshit.
Chad :mstdn:@Dianora@ottawa.place @samloonie@mstdn.ca screenshot censoring the impacted community members and federated members participating in the conversation in question. You can tell these folks are farming for bullshit.
Dave Sanderson 🇨🇦🍁
@chad@mstdn.ca @Dianora@ottawa.place @samloonie@mstdn.ca
This Wikipedia entry concerning ZeroFox controversies is interesting:
“ZeroFox signed a $14 million social media intelligence contract with the FBI on Dec 30, 2020, taking over from Dataminr, which held the contract until Dec. 31, 2020. This transition period led to decreased visibility leading up to the 2021 United States Capitol attack, and led agents to calling it an expletive sounding similar to ZeroFox.”
Dave Sanderson 🇨🇦🍁@chad@mstdn.ca @Dianora@ottawa.place @samloonie@mstdn.ca
This Wikipedia entry concerning ZeroFox controversies is interesting:
“ZeroFox signed a $14 million social media intelligence contract with the FBI on Dec 30, 2020, taking over from Dataminr, which held the contract until Dec. 31, 2020. This transition period led to decreased visibility leading up to the 2021 United States Capitol attack, and led agents to calling it an expletive sounding similar to ZeroFox.”