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Ev Delen
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@johnefrancis@cosocial.ca @NMBA@mstdn.ca Part of the high cost of extraction is because we're currently burning 1/3 of our final product to make more of our product, hence the need to nuclear (or geothermal if it is practical).


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Cogeneration was their solution a couple decades ago lol

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@evdelen@mstdn.ca @NMBA@mstdn.ca in that case, they'll want the cheapest and least-capital-intensive form of energy generation - renewables. Solar and wind built to excess all over AB, producing electric heat to steam the tar. It's quick and doesn't need a decade to get it built, and it doesn't need to last 75y. Tar steaming doesn't even need reliability, levelling and storage like the main electrical system does. If the wind doesn't blow, the tar isn't going anywhere.

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@johnefrancis@cosocial.ca @evdelen@mstdn.ca
Geothermal is continuous energy and would be less ecologically damaging than turbines and PV would required to produce the same electricity. Geothermal is already used around the world, just not in oil-age Canada.

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@johnefrancis@cosocial.ca @evdelen@mstdn.ca
Geothermal is continuous energy and would be less ecologically damaging than turbines and PV would required to produce the same electricity. Geothermal is already used around the world, just not in oil-age Canada.

Ev Delen
@evdelen@mstdn.ca

@NMBA@mstdn.ca @johnefrancis@cosocial.ca There is also such a thing as geographic viability. I'm not familiar with whether there are any hot springs or other easily accessible geothermal sources in Alberta.

When I think Alberta, I don't typically think Volcano. Then again, Yellowstone is south-southeast of Alberta, so there might be geological activity which would make geothermal economical.

Ev Delen
@evdelen@mstdn.ca

@NMBA@mstdn.ca @johnefrancis@cosocial.ca There is also such a thing as geographic viability. I'm not familiar with whether there are any hot springs or other easily accessible geothermal sources in Alberta.

When I think Alberta, I don't typically think Volcano. Then again, Yellowstone is south-southeast of Alberta, so there might be geological activity which would make geothermal economical.

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Canada has mapped out the easy access geothermal and AB has some areas along the rockies. NE BC & YK (peace river oilfield) also have shallow access, and south central BC. Horgan really screwed up with Site C instead of geothermal.

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@evdelen@mstdn.ca @johnefrancis@cosocial.ca
Canada has mapped out the easy access geothermal and AB has some areas along the rockies. NE BC & YK (peace river oilfield) also have shallow access, and south central BC. Horgan really screwed up with Site C instead of geothermal.

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John Francis πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ¦«πŸ¦«πŸπŸπŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ⬆⬆️
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@NMBA@mstdn.ca @evdelen@mstdn.ca hot water pipeline from the mountains to Ft. Mac! All the reserves it passes thri can tap off a bit easily treated water for their needs.

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@NMBA@mstdn.ca @evdelen@mstdn.ca hot water pipeline from the mountains to Ft. Mac! All the reserves it passes thri can tap off a bit easily treated water for their needs.

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@johnefrancis@cosocial.ca @evdelen@mstdn.ca
High capacity transmission to heaters to melt the tar, with side transmission to reserves would likely be cheaper and better. The water in geothermal is ideally recycled over and over (steam turns turbines, then condenses and returns to the system).

John Francis πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ¦«πŸ¦«πŸπŸπŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ⬆⬆️
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@NMBA@mstdn.ca @evdelen@mstdn.ca if only there was a pool of underemployed experts in drilling deep holes and building pipelines in that area.

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@johnefrancis@cosocial.ca @evdelen@mstdn.ca
Exactly...