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RevK :verified_r:
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RevK :verified_r:
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OK trying a petition...

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/736820/sponsors/new?token=5G5ihGnoPqJD2yZUrCNL

(You have to trust me, that is how it works, but courier tax/duty related).

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You know how couriers will try and charge an admin / disbursement fee on import duty, with no contract in place. They will repeatedly quote their contract terms on their web site even, in spite of explaining over and over again that we are not a party to that contract.

So it occurred to me, we just need contract terms on our web site. Almost any argument they make to validate their fee applies the other way. It's published terms. They acted (making delivery). The fees are not unreasonable, etc.

Deliveries received Obviously we receive deliveries of parcels, etc, all the time, and handle these. However, on occasion, we have unexpected additional work to handle a payment demand by a courier with which we have no contract. This means handling the invoice, or payment demand, on our accounts system for which there is no purchase order or existing contract, and also handling making the payment and accounting for it. Where this happens we may charge the courier a ÂŁ20 admin / disbursement fee.
RevK :verified_r:
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OK to simplify...

What legal basis is there for...

1. Courier, after delivery, where they paid duty/vat on an import, recovering from recipient.
2. Courier recovering any admin fee they decide on, from recipient.
3. Courier refusing delivery (with no consequences) for wanting duty/vat/admin fee from recipient before delivery.

These should not be complex questions - they should be legally resolved, and even have legislation (for Royal Mail, some of these do).

So why is this not simple?

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Why would any shop have two different food hygiene ratings displayed?

A window displaying two food hygiene rating stickers. The top sticker shows a rating of 5 (very good), while the bottom sticker shows a rating of 4 (good). Both are in Welsh and English.
RevK :verified_r:
@revk@toot.me.uk

You know how couriers will try and charge an admin / disbursement fee on import duty, with no contract in place. They will repeatedly quote their contract terms on their web site even, in spite of explaining over and over again that we are not a party to that contract.

So it occurred to me, we just need contract terms on our web site. Almost any argument they make to validate their fee applies the other way. It's published terms. They acted (making delivery). The fees are not unreasonable, etc.

Deliveries received Obviously we receive deliveries of parcels, etc, all the time, and handle these. However, on occasion, we have unexpected additional work to handle a payment demand by a courier with which we have no contract. This means handling the invoice, or payment demand, on our accounts system for which there is no purchase order or existing contract, and also handling making the payment and accounting for it. Where this happens we may charge the courier a ÂŁ20 admin / disbursement fee.