Brutkey

jwz
@jwz@mastodon.social

Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.

That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.

Mozilla is cooked.

https://jwz.org/b/yk2n


jwz
@jwz@mastodon.social

I'm old enough to remember when the AI company with $1,400,000,000 in the bank held a bake sale to keep their mail reader running. https://mastodon.social/@jwz/111546146333271392

jwz
@jwz@mastodon.social

@thunderbird@mastodon.online You're a wholly owned subsidiary of a nonprofit that owns a company of the same name that pays their CEO almost $7M. Here's my concrete suggestion, pay them less and spend that money on better things.

If your pitch is "but we're a part of Mozilla, not a part of Mozilla", you need to work on that messaging, because come on.

Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop

@jwz@mastodon.social My read is that Googleβ€”Mozilla's main funding source these daysβ€”have ordered them to spend money on AI (meanwhile supplying the money to do so). No mainstream browser may remain uncompromised by the grift. amirite?

Oblomov
@oblomov@sociale.network

@cstross@wandering.shop @jwz@mastodon.social well, in Google's case the pressure is most likely internal. For Mozilla it'd be interesting to see if there was a gentle push from the outside or if this is inbred^W in-board general idiocy.

Oblomov
@oblomov@sociale.network

@cstross@wandering.shop @jwz@mastodon.social well, in Google's case the pressure is most likely internal. For Mozilla it'd be interesting to see if there was a gentle push from the outside or if this is inbred^W in-board general idiocy.

Jens FinkhΓ€user
@jens@social.finkhaeuser.de

@oblomov@sociale.network @cstross@wandering.shop @jwz@mastodon.social Consider that Mozilla being cooked has a few decades of history.

Back around 2007ish, I was working with a few folk who either came from or later went to Mozilla. Anyhow, some of them were involved with the XHTML 2.0 spec.

Which was finished.

But then got ditched.

Because Googleites insisted a "living spec" was the right thing, which can only be implemented by whoever throws the most money at it, and we now have HTML5 and a browser engine monopoly.

And Mozilla?

Jens FinkhΓ€user
@jens@social.finkhaeuser.de

@oblomov@sociale.network @cstross@wandering.shop @jwz@mastodon.social Consider that Mozilla being cooked has a few decades of history.

Back around 2007ish, I was working with a few folk who either came from or later went to Mozilla. Anyhow, some of them were involved with the XHTML 2.0 spec.

Which was finished.

But then got ditched.

Because Googleites insisted a "living spec" was the right thing, which can only be implemented by whoever throws the most money at it, and we now have HTML5 and a browser engine monopoly.

And Mozilla?

Jens FinkhΓ€user
@jens@social.finkhaeuser.de

@oblomov@sociale.network @cstross@wandering.shop @jwz@mastodon.social Mozillans didn't like it, but Mozilla also considered a unified web more important than open standards, where the definition of "open" includes practically open to implementors.

So fuck you very much for two decades running, Mozilla.

Jens FinkhΓ€user
@jens@social.finkhaeuser.de

@oblomov@sociale.network @cstross@wandering.shop @jwz@mastodon.social Mozillans didn't like it, but Mozilla also considered a unified web more important than open standards, where the definition of "open" includes practically open to implementors.

So fuck you very much for two decades running, Mozilla.