Brutkey

TiTiNoNero :__:
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@LaChasseuse@mastodon.scot @jones@todon.nl

I will not be dragged into a discussion on information vs misinformation and who holds each. It looks like each side of this topic has their own valid sources, facts and legitimate opinions, differently from anti-vaxxer or chemtrailers and other conspiration theorists. It is not so clear where misinformation stands, and in my neutral stance over the two, I still can see the possibility of coexistence of different energy technologies, with possible mitigations for legitimate fears and criticism.

I feel there's more potential in coexistence than in segregation.

Jones
@jones@todon.nl

@77nn@goto.77nn.it @LaChasseuse@mastodon.scot

I think we should just turn off all the polluting power plants and all the polluting infrastructure, like this, https://bu.noblogs.org/the-necessary-socialist-international/ (and then, obviously, we should not build new ones).

TiTiNoNero :__:
@77nn@goto.77nn.it

@jones@todon.nl @LaChasseuse@mastodon.scot
What do you mean by "polluting"? Releasing chemicals in the environment in order to produce anything (i.e. transform one energy into another), including production processes to build the necessary technologies? Find me anything that doesn't pollute then. Even the blacksmith or the woodworker are polluting, just to say. If you mean "pollute less" then one should be careful to set the threshold, as many things could be excluded that one would never think of.

Jones
@jones@todon.nl

@77nn@goto.77nn.it @LaChasseuse@mastodon.scot

If you mean "pollute less" then one should be careful to set the threshold, as many things could be excluded that one would never think of.
I agree, and i would advocate to set that threshold according to an "ecosustainability" index, with a democratic process that would be open to all the municipalities, after we did this, https://bu.noblogs.org/the-necessary-socialist-international/ - for now, it's totally clear that we should at the very least turn off the fossil fuels burning power plants and infrastructures, and nuclear power plants too (huge costs/little output aside, failure or bombing risks of nuclear power plants aside, the radioactive waste problem has no real solution now) - instead, they are growing: many big tech companies are extending their data centers, mostly due to the "AI" crazeness, building new nuclear plants, and burning fossil fuels is increasing too: GHG emissions are still increasing.