@quillmatiq@mastodon.social @mackuba@martianbase.net It's an intro to AT Proto. I don't see how calling it an intro to "the open social web tech" is helpful, since there is no such thing--there is ActivityPub, and there is AT Proto, and they are distinct protocols. An intro to one is not an intro to the other.
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curious gargron, how do you define 'open social web'? is it activitypub, activitypub+atproto, activitypub+atproto+whatever else? i dont think theres a correct or wrong answer here, just that im seeing different people define the term differently, and wondering where you fall
@laurenshof@indieweb.social @quillmatiq@mastodon.social @mackuba@martianbase.net When I was using the term a relatively short period a few years ago, it was a less technical term for "the fediverse" to me. However, as soon as people started using it as an umbrella term for multiple incompatible technologies I moved back to using "fediverse". "Open social web" perfectly describes the abstract goal of where we want these technologies to take us, but it is too broad to be useful when talking about the technologies themselves in my view.
@Gargron@mastodon.social I too have started separating "the Fediverse" from other protocol-based networks, like "the ATmosphere", but also say "open social web" as the combination of these spaces. I'm not sure anyone has decided if these terms have formal meanings, but I'm more than happy to use specific terms if we all ever align on them!
(I doubt we ever will, but I guess the chaos is kinda part of the fun?)
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got bored so drew it out
@laurenshof@indieweb.social @quillmatiq@mastodon.social @mackuba@martianbase.net Well, Threads is part of the fediverse, whether people like it or not, it natively speaks ActivityPub. Should be in that left corner.
It does not natively speak ActivityPub. It can optionally bridge to the Fediverse.
Its core codebase is not “an ActivityPub server” and does not internally use AP objects for everything.
@Gargron@mastodon.social @laurenshof@indieweb.social @quillmatiq@mastodon.social @mackuba@martianbase.net What even about diaspora and those other protocols? We need to understand what the Fediverse was, and revive what it truely was
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