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The development process of the protocol is poisoned by the presence of Meta. Any significant revision the organization proposes will be perceived as an aspect of the Meta incursion, suspected and resisted, whatever its actual origin. The backlash to any perceived attempt by Meta to manipulate the backbone of the fedi could lead to an existential crisis.

Under these circumstances the only way to avoid such a backlash is to refrain from advancing protocol development at all, which is also unsustainable. The way out of this is the ejection of the Meta intruders from SWICG and any other working group which has an influence on the future of ActivityPub.

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ophiocephalic 🐍

@ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social

In his recent FediCon talk, Evan Prodromou implicitly rationalized his collaboration with Meta by proclaiming, "you don't negotiate with friends". Maybe not, but you don't hand enemies the keys to your kingdom either, which is exactly what he has done by giving Meta seats at the table of the ActivityPub working group. And for that matter, accepting a relatively significant sum of money from those enemies to fund your foundation goes rather beyond the negotiation phase as well, does it not?

As it stands, we have a hostile element enmeshed in the development process which undergirds the entire network, all the while systematically violating every last consent boundary the fedi has defined and defended over the course of its history. This is a power imbalance so egregious and amoral that it negates the raison d'etre of the fediverse altogether. Meta must be removed from SWICG

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Chewie
@chewie@mammut.gogreenit.net

@ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social Is this the video: https://pt.gogreenit.net/w/eg35Kne91oEHcgyfvQWMhM ?

Unfortunately he doesn't go though it in detail, but everyone should be highly suspicious of their involvement.
He mentions google and ADAM/RSS, but doesn't he mean Google and GTalk / XMPP?

Some people say it's a bad example, but it set back the open chat system years - the same could happen with Meta.

I bet the only reason they are interested is so that they don't get hammered by regulation.

ophiocephalic 🐍

@ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social

@chewie@mammut.gogreenit.net
Yes indeed, that's the one. And yes, his language here is guarded, he's adept at skirting round the elephant in the room

patatas
@patatas@social.patatas.ca

@ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social @chewie@mammut.gogreenit.net just watched this keynote, and it’s kinda telling that he doesn’t once say the words “surveillance” or “power”. The talk got close, when he mentioned privacy, but bizarrely his take was that big actors are somehow more trustworthy, which like, has he been following anything in the news for the past decade plus?

Then the snarky answer about ‘not getting popular so our hearts don’t get broken’ was also pretty shocking. He clearly has no desire to grapple with the contradiction between, on the one hand, wanting his protocol baby to rule the world, and on the other hand, the fact that he’s invited surveillance fascists into the room.

I suspect he’s after a big payday; he couldn’t even help himself from talking about Ethereum, whose Ethereum Foundation has already paid him and Tom Coates a pretty tidy sum to do what amounted to a book report on E2EE encryption.