Brutkey

Chad :mstdn:
@chad@mstdn.ca

@thisismissem@hachyderm.io @dansup@mastodon.social @deadsuperhero@social.wedistribute.org "he's building things but not at the rate I would approve" is quite the take considering he's currently a one man band and I'm sure Eugen was at some point.

I'm really not subscribing to this as really, the fediverse is in its infancy and this exclusionism is exactly what is inhibiting its growth.

Again, appreciate what you do writ large, but I'm not behind this take.

Emelia 👸🏻
@thisismissem@hachyderm.io

@chad@mstdn.ca @dansup@mastodon.social @deadsuperhero@social.wedistribute.org yes, Eugen was a one man band at one point, but he focused on one thing instead of trying to do everything. He also accepted help when it was given, he worked with pull requests instead of in isolation.

And it's not that it's a "rate I would approve", it's him saying "yeah, I'm almost done with that" and then crickets for months. Or "yeah, I'm going to build this and write a FEP", and then nothing materialises.

Dan has also alienated a tonne of people who at one point or another wanted to help him.

People rely on Dan's software, and he does a lot of marketing, so people's expectations are set high. If you say you're going to do something, do it, or explain why you're not, with something better than "I'm distracted by my other three projects"

Chad :mstdn:
@chad@mstdn.ca

@thisismissem@hachyderm.io @dansup@mastodon.social @deadsuperhero@social.wedistribute.org all those words are great, and I align with many of them, but I still haven't seen anyone offer a PR for any of his projects.

Honestly, and I'm sorry to say, this is a step up or shut up situation.

"He created too much too quickly" really isn't aligned with any of the values many of us hold in the hopes of growth of the fediverse.

Emelia 👸🏻
@thisismissem@hachyderm.io

@chad@mstdn.ca @dansup@mastodon.social @deadsuperhero@social.wedistribute.org he literally chased away all the people who wanted to contribute, like seriously, no other fedi dev had had a letter like this written: https://dansup-open-letter.github.io

Ask dan about how he works sometimes, because last I knew he tended to have thousands of untracked files where he was doing too many changes at once, but not finishing any of them or working in branches such that he could cleanly switch tasks — that's what leads to those massive "do all the things" merges.

If he hadn't chased others away from his projects it'd be a different matter.

Chad :mstdn:
@chad@mstdn.ca

@thisismissem@hachyderm.io @dansup@mastodon.social @deadsuperhero@social.wedistribute.org this conversation has progressed to the point where I think Dan is owed an opportunity to weigh in.