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JA Westenberg
@Daojoan@mastodon.social

The optimist in me used to see possibility everywhere. Yes, that led to some spectacular failures and embarrassing miscalculations. But it also led to the best things I've ever done, the most meaningful connections I've made, the work I'm most proud of.

11/16


JA Westenberg
@Daojoan@mastodon.social

None of that happened because I was realistic about the odds.

I'm starting to think that cynicism isn't the opposite of naivety; it's just naivety in a different direction. The naive optimist believes everything will work out. The naive cynic believes nothing will.

12/16

JA Westenberg
@Daojoan@mastodon.social

Both avoid the harder work of engaging with reality as it actually unfolds, messy and unpredictable and occasionally miraculous.

13/16

JA Westenberg
@Daojoan@mastodon.social

I want to get back to building things instead of just critiquing them. I want to be surprised by success instead of satisfied by failure. I want to care about the outcome more than I care about being right.

14/16

JA Westenberg
@Daojoan@mastodon.social

Most of all, I want to remember what it feels like to hope for something without immediately calculating the probability of disappointment.

The world has enough people explaining why things won't work. What it needs are people willing to be wrong about the possibility that they might.

15/16

JA Westenberg
@Daojoan@mastodon.social

I'm ready to be naive again.

Starting now.

16/16

Michael T. Richter
@qqmrichter@mastodon.world

@Daojoan@mastodon.social I'm not ready to be naive ever again. I try to keep a balancing act between enthusiastic "let's do this!" and cautious "but if it doesn't work, what's the fallback?".

Hope for the best. Plan for the worst.

Mindless optimism is at least as psychologically harmful as mindless pessimism in my view. Perhaps even slightly more harmful. I think optimism tempered by experienced wisdom is the better, albeit narrower and more difficult, path to follow.

Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©
@benroyce@mastodon.social

@Daojoan@mastodon.social

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the worst is
#cynicism about #politics

cynicism is acceptance,
#prematureCapitulation

cynicism is malice and abuse that you've internalized

it doesn't mean you try the same crap that didn't work before

but it means you try something

always, forever

that's not crazy

that's just life

there is always adversity

you must always deal with it

the worst you can do is shrink from it and yield to it

be a happy warrior

10,000 arrows incoming?

smile and move forward

Martin
@mjsberna@infosec.exchange

@Daojoan@mastodon.social
Well told.

Better naive and curious than stuck in a predictable cell.
Let's go, as long our energy isn't drained.

Jeremy Janzen :mstdnca:
@jeremyjanzen@mstdn.ca

@Daojoan@mastodon.social The hardest thing is learning to treat yourself as you would a dear friend or a child, to be curious and compassionate. Naivety is a beautiful condition that causes children to look at the world with eyes full of wonder. Its crouching down and noticing the beauty of the weeds in the garden, the smell of junipers in the summer heat, the sensation of walking in the rain, the sounds the insects make in the evening or the taste of a dandelion flower sampled from a wild hillside.

BlueTeamSherpa :verified:
@Blueteamsherpa@infosec.exchange

@Daojoan@mastodon.social you didn’t ask for advice. I have no expectation of you, so no pressure.

A
possible way to break the addiction is to find a non-profit you can support and go volunteer. If it’s a pet shelter, go. If it’s packing bags of food at a food bank, go. Whatever cause floats your boat, go.

not every pet gets adopted, but some do. There will always be hungry people in the world, but you’ll have a part of feeding some of them. Even though successes won’t be 100%, you’ll know that you’ve had a part in making the world a better place and you’ll be able to focus on successes rather than the failures of the world.

again, I have no expectation that you’ll do this, but that might be a way to lift you out of your cynicism. Regardless of what path you take or don’t, I wish you the best.

mcSlibinas
@mcSlibinas@mastodon.social

@Daojoan@mastodon.social no need to jump back. You did long way. Because you has a reason. Now you see issues. Amazing! Get the new ideas to go further!

Naivety to start, cynism to prepare plan, new hope to build.

Cynism is still useful in small doses, sometimes enough just to have possibility to be cynic.

And don't listen to internet strangers like me
🫑🫑

Dr Pen
@DrPen@mastodon.social

@Daojoan@mastodon.social this is called growing up. And many people stop at this point as if it's the destination of maturity. But, no, reaching beyond into the next level of hoping and doing and taking chances goes beyond that and though you'll get called immature and childish, you're just being alive. Not giving up. Never give up .

Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©
@benroyce@mastodon.social

@mcSlibinas@mastodon.social @Daojoan@mastodon.social

well said

cynicism in and of itself is not wrong per se

it's very useful to use it to look at the other side of a thought

then we can accept the cynical analysis and try a different thought, reject the cynical analysis, or alter the original thought to incorporate the cynical observation

what we can't do is make cynicism our entire personality, the beginning and ending of our entire thought processes

that's pretty much the death of {gestures broadly}

FranΓ§ois @Jura
@FrancoisPrague@mastodon.social

@benroyce@mastodon.social @mcSlibinas@mastodon.social @Daojoan@mastodon.social

Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©
@benroyce@mastodon.social

@DrPen@mastodon.social @Daojoan@mastodon.social

and the truth is that the cynicism of those calling you childish is what is childish

or rather, blind idealism is childish, cynicism is teenagerish, and realistic optimism is maturity

Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©
@benroyce@mastodon.social

@FrancoisPrague@mastodon.social @mcSlibinas@mastodon.social @Daojoan@mastodon.social

exactly

1. idealism is a form of failure. which is not a condemnation of idealistic people. we all start out as idealists in life

2. cynicism, as idealism's mirror image, is also a failure. it's what naturally follows from step 1 because of inevitable adversity

3. maturity is using idealistic thoughts to guide you, but filtering it through realism (not cynicism)

the problem is people stuck on step 1, or step 2

all of us should strive to reach step 3

Ω 🌍🌍 Gus Posey
@Gustodon@mas.to

@benroyce@mastodon.social "Idealism is a form of failure."

🀯🀯

Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©
@benroyce@mastodon.social

@FrancoisPrague@mastodon.social @mcSlibinas@mastodon.social @Daojoan@mastodon.social

exactly

1. idealism is a form of failure. which is not a condemnation of idealistic people. we all start out as idealists in life

2. cynicism, as idealism's mirror image, is also a failure. it's what naturally follows from step 1 because of inevitable adversity

3. maturity is using idealistic thoughts to guide you, but filtering it through realism (not cynicism)

the problem is people stuck on step 1, or step 2

all of us should strive to reach step 3

Ω 🌍🌍 Gus Posey
@Gustodon@mas.to

@benroyce@mastodon.social "Idealism is a form of failure."

🀯🀯

Ω 🌍🌍 Gus Posey
@Gustodon@mas.to

@benroyce@mastodon.social "Idealism is a form of failure."

🀯🀯

Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©
@benroyce@mastodon.social

@Gustodon@mas.to

it's a stage in development towards maturity

it's not so much a failure mode as a premature mode that we all pass through

although you can call it a failure mode for some people who cling to idealism stubbornly, to their own detriment (and our collective detriment if they convince others to cling to idealism)

Ω 🌍🌍 Gus Posey
@Gustodon@mas.to

@benroyce@mastodon.social "Idealism is a form of failure."

🀯🀯

Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©
@benroyce@mastodon.social

@Gustodon@mas.to

it's a stage in development towards maturity

it's not so much a failure mode as a premature mode that we all pass through

although you can call it a failure mode for some people who cling to idealism stubbornly, to their own detriment (and our collective detriment if they convince others to cling to idealism)

Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©
@benroyce@mastodon.social

@Gustodon@mas.to

it's a stage in development towards maturity

it's not so much a failure mode as a premature mode that we all pass through

although you can call it a failure mode for some people who cling to idealism stubbornly, to their own detriment (and our collective detriment if they convince others to cling to idealism)

mcSlibinas
@mcSlibinas@mastodon.social

@benroyce@mastodon.social @Gustodon@mas.to i think idealism is a direction. Cynicism is a tool. Realism - this is a bit tricky, i guess realism is a result or unstable balance.

Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©
@benroyce@mastodon.social

@Gustodon@mas.to

it's a stage in development towards maturity

it's not so much a failure mode as a premature mode that we all pass through

although you can call it a failure mode for some people who cling to idealism stubbornly, to their own detriment (and our collective detriment if they convince others to cling to idealism)

mcSlibinas
@mcSlibinas@mastodon.social

@benroyce@mastodon.social @Gustodon@mas.to i think idealism is a direction. Cynicism is a tool. Realism - this is a bit tricky, i guess realism is a result or unstable balance.

mcSlibinas
@mcSlibinas@mastodon.social

@benroyce@mastodon.social @Gustodon@mas.to i think idealism is a direction. Cynicism is a tool. Realism - this is a bit tricky, i guess realism is a result or unstable balance.

Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©
@benroyce@mastodon.social

@mcSlibinas@mastodon.social @Gustodon@mas.to

realism, i think, can be defined as nothing more than idealism shaped by experience

you still aim to the good goal

but now you know the road is not simple

so you continue towards the good goal, but you get there with the tools that adversity taught you, which can be called cynicism

cynicism (as a personality, not as a tool as you say and i agree) is sitting down on the side of the road and giving up. cynicism as a personality is giving in to adversity, a failure mode

mcSlibinas
@mcSlibinas@mastodon.social

@benroyce@mastodon.social @Gustodon@mas.to i think idealism is a direction. Cynicism is a tool. Realism - this is a bit tricky, i guess realism is a result or unstable balance.

Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©
@benroyce@mastodon.social

@mcSlibinas@mastodon.social @Gustodon@mas.to

realism, i think, can be defined as nothing more than idealism shaped by experience

you still aim to the good goal

but now you know the road is not simple

so you continue towards the good goal, but you get there with the tools that adversity taught you, which can be called cynicism

cynicism (as a personality, not as a tool as you say and i agree) is sitting down on the side of the road and giving up. cynicism as a personality is giving in to adversity, a failure mode

Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©
@benroyce@mastodon.social

@mcSlibinas@mastodon.social @Gustodon@mas.to

realism, i think, can be defined as nothing more than idealism shaped by experience

you still aim to the good goal

but now you know the road is not simple

so you continue towards the good goal, but you get there with the tools that adversity taught you, which can be called cynicism

cynicism (as a personality, not as a tool as you say and i agree) is sitting down on the side of the road and giving up. cynicism as a personality is giving in to adversity, a failure mode

Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©
@benroyce@mastodon.social

@mcSlibinas@mastodon.social @Gustodon@mas.to

realism, i think, can be defined as nothing more than idealism shaped by experience

you still aim to the good goal

but now you know the road is not simple

so you continue towards the good goal, but you get there with the tools that adversity taught you, which can be called cynicism

cynicism (as a personality, not as a tool as you say and i agree) is sitting down on the side of the road and giving up. cynicism as a personality is giving in to adversity, a failure mode