@dalias@hachyderm.io @DavyJones@c.im
Until around age 13-15 kids should use internet protected with age-appropriate white lists IMO. School internet should have whitelists developed by teachers and with student input.
Younger kids under age 10 should use internet mostly with supervision.
Some parents will want to limit white lists to impose their values in various ways. Some of this is probably harmful. But I doubt that the internet rules are the greatest source of harm in those families.
child abuse mention, arguably csa details
@futurebird@sauropods.win @dalias@hachyderm.io @DavyJones@c.im children should have the same access to the internet as anyone. the only way i was able to talk to anyone my age outside of being at school (which was an all boys school where i received more abuse as closeted trans kid) was the internet
my parents frequently took my access away. i remember losing friends because of it, and dealing with total social isolation.
i remember as a kid opening up my school laptop internet history and finding a bunch of “big dicked shemale” porn my abuser had been looking at. i was 12 at the time?
unrestricted access to the internet may sound dangerous to children, and i agree with very young children, but i think at some point they have the right to put themselves in danger if they understand the risks
my mother was terrified of me being abused by internet strangers so i was scared to talk to even ppl my own age of i didn’t know them in person
hell i wasn’t allowed to even go to other peoples houses most of the time because of it
yet all it did was make me more isolated and vulnerable to my abuser, and i do not think i was a unique case
child abuse mention, arguably csa details
@astronema@social.translunar.academy @DavyJones@c.im @dalias@hachyderm.io @futurebird@sauropods.win
At a time when queer and trans kids are being targeted by media and legislation, it seems absurd and dangerous to try to further isolate them, and tear away and support or education they may have online.
It's somewhat disturbing that all the solutions provided in this thread are attempts to digitally control and isolate kids while never acknowledging that kids become young adults quickly, and that we live in a connected world where you can never successfully digitally isolate kids entirely. Teachers, themselves, are woefully ill educated on technology, social media, AI, and online economics. Frankly, you would probably be better off having teenagers hold classes for teachers explaining how social media and dynamics work online.
We keep trying to reject or restrict technology we all use daily under the guise of "child innocence" instead of treating children as complex human beings who need guidance to become competent adults.
child abuse mention, arguably csa details
@astronema@social.translunar.academy @DavyJones@c.im @dalias@hachyderm.io
IDK if unlimited internet can fix terrible parents or an environment that is intolerant or unsupportive of who a child is.
There are instances where it has helped ... on the flip side I've seen kids sucked in by these communities that form around minor celebrity influencers. Sometimes the influencers themselves are predatory, sometimes creeps just lurk in such places looking for lonely disconnected young people.
re: child abuse
@futurebird@sauropods.win @DavyJones@c.im @dalias@hachyderm.io honestly, it doesn’t fix it but you will hear countless examples of queer kids trapped in abusive homes only surviving because they did have unrestricted access to the internet.
i might have killed myself as a teen without it, i’ve met many who say they would have
like i said in another post, i’m more about educating kids and giving them the ability as a class to advocate for themselves and choose the risks that they want to take.
u also need to take into account that children can hack things, they will get past things like “white lists”
re: child abuse
@futurebird@sauropods.win @DavyJones@c.im @dalias@hachyderm.io honestly, it doesn’t fix it but you will hear countless examples of queer kids trapped in abusive homes only surviving because they did have unrestricted access to the internet.
i might have killed myself as a teen without it, i’ve met many who say they would have
like i said in another post, i’m more about educating kids and giving them the ability as a class to advocate for themselves and choose the risks that they want to take.
u also need to take into account that children can hack things, they will get past things like “white lists”
re: child abuse
@astronema@social.translunar.academy @DavyJones@c.im @futurebird@sauropods.win Yeah. The question isn't whether it fixes it but whether you're doing harm by denying kids access to the primary venue of information, friendship, public space, etc.
re: child abuse
@astronema@social.translunar.academy @DavyJones@c.im @futurebird@sauropods.win Yeah. The question isn't whether it fixes it but whether you're doing harm by denying kids access to the primary venue of information, friendship, public space, etc.
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