Brutkey

Jen Simmons
@jensimmons@front-end.social

Web developers, do you test your sites in Safari Beta? (On a standalone machine, automated? On your Mac?)

If not, why? Is it because installing the beta overrides regular Safari? If you could have Safari & Safari beta both at the same time, would you do so?

What do you need? Why? Share details!


westbrook
@westbrook@mastodon.social

@jensimmons@front-end.social Most important things is definitely support for Safari in more contexts. You can use a fork (Playwright) or a WebKit/Epiphany on Linux, but at large the inability to leverage SAFARI in enough places is a huge blocker.

Andrew Berry
@deviantintegral@drupal.community

@jensimmons@front-end.social No, and most of our customers only care about Safari on iPhones. The lack of a real Safari for Linux (for CI) and Windows (for folks in Windows shops without Macs) is a major issue. Even in CI with Playwright using Webkit, it’s by far the slowest and flakiest browser and we often end up disabling it in tests too. (1/2)

Andrew Berry
@deviantintegral@drupal.community

Further, even if they want to test with Safari. they often limit it to public pages only and not authenticated experiences. Those are considered β€œgood enough” if they work in Chrome.

It’s unfortunate, but I get it. I was a Safari user until recently, when integration issues with 1Password (fixed in 15.6 at least) drove me to another browser. (2/2)

Andrew Berry
@deviantintegral@drupal.community

Further, even if they want to test with Safari. they often limit it to public pages only and not authenticated experiences. Those are considered β€œgood enough” if they work in Chrome.

It’s unfortunate, but I get it. I was a Safari user until recently, when integration issues with 1Password (fixed in 15.6 at least) drove me to another browser. (2/2)