tyil@tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
@xnite@infosec.exchange @mgifford@mastodon.social
see a few though I know are just trollfarms tbhSure, but should those be immediately defederated completely? Seems like massive overkill to me.
in general this seems to be the caseIf you stick to those instances, then sure. If you do not, like me, you'll see it differently. You choose to stay within that narrative now that you know your current instance is part of the problem.
I've seen a lot of backlash about threads joining federation, and the thought of X even federating if they wanted toI dislike the idea of them federating here, too. The people that come to the #Fediverse do so because they dislike the proprietary platforms and their tactics of manipulation for profit. Getting them here would only lower the quality of discourse on the Fediverse.
you have to pick sides no matter whatYou don't, your admins do it for you without you knowing it.
show me one that doesn't block anything but then also doesn't wind up, in itself, getting blockedThis seems like a weak argument. Any instance I might show you, you can just add to any blocklist at that moment just to ensure you're always right. Besides, getting blocked by incompetent power-hungry #Mastodon admins requires no bad intent on the blockee's part, so it holds no meaning to be blocked in itself.
I know my instance is blocked by a few dozen other instances, but that doesn't mean my instance is unusable. On the contrary, the instances that don't block me value free and open discussion of any idea, which means that my experience of the Fediverse is much more wide in opinion than yours can ever be.
xnite@xnite@infosec.exchange
@tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @mgifford@mastodon.social putting it into that light sure I can see your point. I have certainly had my fair share of instance hopping as well in attempt to find one that fits me. I ran my own at one point, got quite a bit of backlash due to not seeing need to moderate what I consider to be free speech. I do truly wonder how many instances, of the many are blocking so aggressively? it seems that a lot tend to cave under the pressure to moderate "unpopular opinions", at least a couple years ago when I last tried to get into fedi.
Another thing I've failed to see is someone confront a "racist" with actual questions and discourse that lead to further understanding of each other, and possible resolve, rather than leading to personal attacks and threats to "defederate". I certainly understand that some people cannot be reasoned with but I think, much like when I am wrong about something, that many opinions are based on ignorance and lack of understanding. I think that ignorance can absolutely be fixed and resolved just through civil discourse where personal feelings are set aside to create a welcoming atmosphere of actual deeper understanding.
From what I seen X tries to be that but instead of sticking around to try it seems that most people have just left the platform to the point it has become en echo chamber for the ignorant rather than a place for discourse that promotes the change necessary to break our people free from the shackles which divide us.
