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Insecurity Princess 🌈🌈💖💖🔥🔥
@saraislet@infosec.exchange

@grimalkina@mastodon.social @mhoye@mastodon.social
Oops, I meant to write "their conclusion is that NOT investing in learning undermines productivity benefits".

I've seen no scientifically well supported evidence that LLMs improve productivity outside of limited use cases (which is useful! but the magical thinking about LLMs is unbelievable)

At most organizations I've known, devs have supportive learning structures. They learn languages, tools, infrastructure, new concepts and practices, etc, regularly through their careers.

But usually devs do that because they see clear value to spending time learning a new language or tool, or even developing new tools that make our work more efficient or effective.


Cat Hicks
@grimalkina@mastodon.social

@saraislet@infosec.exchange @mhoye@mastodon.social I understand why you're frustrated with the state of the conversation and evidence. I am too, and I agree that the "productivity" investigations are super lacking. Really, I engage with qualitative interview studies of this sort as interesting artifacts and mostly read the quotes while leaving the researcher frames as you know, their frame, which I like more in some cases than others. In this particular case I thought it was an interesting contrast to the assumed unanimous...

Cat Hicks
@grimalkina@mastodon.social

@saraislet@infosec.exchange @mhoye@mastodon.social ...stance from the CEO quotes, when even similar qualitative work with a sample of very similar people surfaces a lot of conflicting opinions! I read these qual studies less as statements of ground truth and more as investigations into perceptions.

On the learning environments piece though, I do think this can be pretty lacking for a lot of devs and that paying attention to it is helpful. It's a stated value but I think cultures that truly incorporate it are rarer in tech.

Cat Hicks
@grimalkina@mastodon.social

@saraislet@infosec.exchange @mhoye@mastodon.social but I see your point that we should look to the natural behaviors of developers as a signal of what's easily and readily relevant to them though, and totally agree. I mean tool adoption is difficult and I don't like to take it as a proof of efficacy either (people can flock to stuff that is bad for them) but I think we're probably aligned on that.

Insecurity Princess 🌈🌈💖💖🔥🔥
@saraislet@infosec.exchange

@grimalkina@mastodon.social true facts, good points, thank you 💖💖

My cynicism gets the better of me sometimes. It's disappointing to see a low degree of strategy in investment choices and more everything-everywhere-all-at-once