Brutkey

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@xssfox@cloudisland.nz

Pondering the thought that maybe people cycling for work (not to) who spend a lot of time on public roads maybe should have some form of training / license? I don't entirely like this idea but also feel like it could make things a bit safer.

I've seen interactions that I don't think were from trying to take shortcuts but just a lack of understanding.

That's not discounting that people who are licensed don't do shitty things.

My concern would be it might just services into cars.

Hailey
@hailey@hails.org

@xssfox@cloudisland.nz every extra barrier stops some people from cycling. We have good data on this from the introduction of mandatory helmets (which was staggered over several years across the states). More people cycling out there makes all of us safer, as well as firming up political support for all the other ways cycling can be made safer.

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@xssfox@cloudisland.nz

@hailey@hails.org I do agree with that. Really a lot of the issue lays with delivery services not providing safety. Realistically probably need delivery people to unionize.

I am still concerned about their safety though. Recent example:

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@xssfox@cloudisland.nz

@hailey@hails.org stopped at red light, everyones behind the uber deliver bike (weird they stopped right?). road layout is bike lane, car lane, right turn lane. we are all in the bike lane. light turns green, doesn't move, people ding, doesn't move, I point at the green light, they point at the red turn arrow. they were full intending to turn right when the right turn light turns green, from the left bike lane, through the other traffic.